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American Radiator & Standard Sanitary Corp. series 1B J1 No. A 34

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Jo Ann
Jo Ann Member Posts: 12
in Strictly Steam
Can anyone tell me the age of this beastie?
Does A 34 translate to January 1934?

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  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,576
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    Pictures please, and its appearance may give additional clues to its age.--NBC
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    No, A-34 is the model number. The 1BJ1 is some sort of factory code. Your boiler dates to the 1960s. It's built like a tank, but the original burners that came with these units weren't great. However, they run well with Beckett or Carlin flame-retention burners.
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  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 5,835
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    Steamhead said:
    No, A-34 is the model number. The 1BJ1 is some sort of factory code. Your boiler dates to the 1960s. It's built like a tank, but the original burners that came with these units weren't great. However, they run well with Beckett or Carlin flame-retention burners.
    Is that the model (oil?) With the silver jacket and right side cleanouts? Lathered in furnace cement. If I had to choose I'd take the Arcoliner double door. In the end I would look for Door Number Three.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    That's the one. They tend to last a long, long time.

    @Jo Ann , is this a steam or hot-water system?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
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  • Jo Ann
    Jo Ann Member Posts: 12
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    Steam
  • Jo Ann
    Jo Ann Member Posts: 12
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    Steam, oil fired. Tried to upload pix but I guess they didn't come through. Trying again now.



  • SlamDunk
    SlamDunk Member Posts: 1,580
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    Question for the pro's. That looks like a fairly new Beckett burner. What would happen if you reduce stack to a 6" stack?
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    It might work, but if an inspector ever went down that basement he'd probably cite it.

    As long as there is a properly-sized and properly-adjusted barometric draft regulator (swinging disc) on that smoke pipe, you shouldn't lose too much heat thru it.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    SlamDunk
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,834
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    I have heard of venting rules from long ago that allowed to downsize vent connector from equipment breach to the chimney base by 1 size. So an 8" collar on the furnace or boiler could be connected with a 7" pipe, or a 7" with a 6" pipe.

    Venting rules and codes have changed since the 1970s and the whole Category I, II, III, and IV tables and chimney liner specifications based on higher efficiency (Lower Stack or vent Temperature) equipment.

    Since you are using steam and the vent temperature can be high enough to eliminate condensation of flue gas, you may be able to do the reduction. It may even be in the original manufacturer's instructions since the equipment is that old.
    Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics
    SlamDunk

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