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T C Joy radiators
nicole1226
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Hello! I'm working on a project about T. C. Joy, a man who built radiators in Pennsylvania during the late 1800s. His company's radiators were used all throughout the northeast during that time. Does anyone have any photos of his radiators available?
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These came out of a house in Alameda, California in June 2001. The house was built in 1900.
They were beauties!
Can you tell us more about the history of the company and the owner?
8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
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These are beautiful. Thanks for sharing, @Alan (California Radiant) Forbes.President
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Thank you so much @Alan (California Radiant) Forbes!
T C Joy began as an oil businessman in Pennsylvania, but he fiddled with heating and radiators on the side. Later in life, he decided to do what he loved and started producing radiators in Titusville, PA. The company was very successful and was sold to a local Ironworks company after his death. I can't believe those are from California!1 -
Which company bought T.C. Joy?nicole1226 said:The company was very successful and was sold to a local Ironworks company after his death.
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I found this history of the house prepared by the current owner. The exact date of construction is 1897.
http://www.alameda-preservation.org/preservation/AlamedaMonuments/N30%201240%20St%20Charles%20-%20Bruton%20House%20Report.pdf
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So, what happened to the radiators?All Steamed Up, Inc.
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The owners sold them.Steamhead said:So, what happened to the radiators?8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
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That house will never be comfortable again. Can't fix stupid.....................All Steamed Up, Inc.
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Never a dull moment with you, Steamhead. : )We removed the radiators and installed radiant.Even though they were museum pieces, some people just don’t like the floor space that radiators take up; especially designers.8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
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Just heard back from the owner:Yes, these were beautiful radiators. We sold them to a collector who bought them from us and then picked them up when he was here visiting from Germany. We sold them via Craigslist.
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We have more trouble with designers...... I can't count the number of cold kitchens and bathrooms I've seen because some designer took radiators out. On a few occasions I've gotten calls for no heat in those rooms, and then I get there to find the room was just remodeled and the radiator is gone!Never a dull moment with you, Steamhead. : )
We removed the radiators and installed radiant.Even though they were museum pieces, some people just don’t like the floor space that radiators take up; especially designers.
Well, lady, you paid for this problem. No, I'm not fixing it for free. Yes, I realize you spent all your money on the remodeling, and now the remodeling contractor won't return your calls. Have a nice life...............All Steamed Up, Inc.
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@Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Are these your images? If so, do we have permission to upload them onto a digital library? Your name wouldn't be available to the public or anything like that.0
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Yes, my images. I’ll check with the owner to see if she has a problem with it.In the meantime, can you tell us more about the work you are doing? Is it limited to T C Joy or are there other manufacturers involved?I remember when I first posted the pictures quite a few years ago, no one had ever seen radiators like this, even the gentleman who wrote, “Every Darn Radiator”.
How did you come across T C Joy? Do you know more of his history beyond that he was a businessman in PA?
Sorry to grill you, but we love the history of our trade and are always excited to learn something new.8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
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I didn't know that they already made thin tube radiators in 1900. Why did people continue to install the ugly ones?1
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No problem! I have an internship with a historical society and this was the project I was assigned. It is only centered around T C Joy, but there are other exhibits centered around the town's history that others have worked on.
Because he's such a local figure, there isn't much known about him other than his business ventures. Most of our information is from his obituary and old newspaper articles. My favorite tidbit is that when his friend passed away, he took his daughters in and raised him as his own.1 -
Thanks for getting back to us and bringing T C Joy back to life. What a great guy! And yes, you have the owner’s and my permission to
use the images.
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thank you so much!
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@Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Thank you so much! Does the dealer from Germany specialize in radiators? It's so interesting to think of a radiator collection floating around in Europe.0
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Those look so much like mine, just a different design. Beautiful. I check though and it appears not to be from Joy. It is hard to discern but since we are having it refurbished will check again once completed.0
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I found some pictures from a job we did last year in the same town (Alameda). There must have been a heating contractor here that liked installing T C Joy radiators.
8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
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Checking back in about the TC Joy info above. We just went live with a digital exhibit here at the Titusville, PA historical society, home of the original TC Joy company. Thanks to all above who contributed time, permissions, info. If you see anything on the exhibit you think needs changed let us know. Enjoy! https://titusvillepaheritageconnection.omeka.net/exhibits/show/tcjoy/joyintro
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I know this forum is old. But I couldn’t help myself. I saved these three beauties,today.
Im stoked !
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Tell us more! Where did they come from?
Also- how many sections in that 4-column Peerless? I have a customer who needs one.All Steamed Up, Inc.
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Steamhead. Those ARE similar to the Gorgeous "flue" radiator you donated to the renovation of The Old Hitchcock Farmhouse here in Floral Park,.Long Island 🏝 NY. Those last two radiators, I have never seen. I stand with Steamhead. Radiant is awesome, especially under ceramic tile or in a slab, but you can't beat the Tremendous EDR of steam radiators and especially, the ornate, scrolled and filigreed kind. The are living, breathing Antiquities that ooze CHARACTER. People either get it or they don't, like Thoroughbred Horse Racing. Thats cool....I guess if you like Modern European or Gaudy 1970s Queens ,NY with shag carpet and marble everywhere (Our home in How'beach), you're not going to like em. Just please don't throw em in a Dumpster....Mad Dog 🐕1
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It’s so interesting to see the history of these unique radiators, manufactured in Pennsylvania and installed in a Northern California home! It reminds me of an experience I had last winter at the Salt Lake City, Utah, historical “Bee Hive House” home and museum of Brigham Young. The second owner of the home built an addition after the railroad had arrived. The addition included hot water heat, and I was surprised to see some fancy Italian flu style radiators in one of the rooms. Into the staircase Newell post was carved a scene of a railroad. That museum really illustrated the importance of the railroad to people’s lives in that area. It’s apparent that the railroad changed everything.2
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