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Tips/Tricks on Replacing Radiator Push Nipples....

So I finally removed my leaky radiator and plan to split the sections where it is leaking. To split them I will cut four wooden wedges, lie the radiator on its side and put two wedges at the top and two at the bottom. Just keep driving the wedges in until the section splits.

What I don't know yet is how to get the push nipples out once the to sections are split. Chisel and hammer? The radiator is cast iron and probably as old as the house, about 120 years old.

I've thought of buying a used radiator in unknown condition but the asking price is usually $200+ and for the cost of some push nipples ($15-30) I figure its worth a shot.

Comments

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 22,912
    You may find that the leaking nipple is so shot that you can just collapse it, then pull it out.

    If you do resort to a chisel, use it to try to collapse the nipple. Be very careful to avoid knicking the seat in the radiator section if you can.

    Separating sections.... you can also use the type of expander used in auto repair to loosen ball joints.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    Thanks! Here is a newbie question... I assume there are two push nipples right? One at the top and one at the bottom? Or is the top one something else?
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 22,912
    Two. The one at the top is probably OK, though -- though no harm to getting a spare.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,849
    Don't use a chisel! I pulled mine out with a slide hammer, but it doesn't take much. They're tapered, so they just pop right out.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    Thanks again. I'll just gently clean it since its not leaking and just replace the bottom one.

    I'll put a little high temp automotive RTV in between the sections and cross my fingers.
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 22,912
    If you put RTV in there, make sure that it doesn't get on the nipple or its seating surfaces. I've use it, though, that way, as a ring around the outside of the nipple (not touching) and inside of the outer ring cast on the radiator section. Shouldn't need it, but...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    Just planning for the worst. I am usually confronted by surprises and am also Captain Overkill at the same time. Just don't want to do this twice.

    If the radiator plate surfaces are in good shape I'll leave it alone. I have a feeling its been leaking for a couple decades anyways, so who knows what I'll find.
  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 880
    edited December 2019
    If you need to clean the mating surfaces use only fine steel wool or crocus cloth and not a wire wheel or wire brush. If you are using new nipples or reusing the old nipples I would use grease on the mating surfaces. To remove a nipple when you can access the opposite side use a drift punch with a flat end and not a chisel or anything with an edge.
    Hap_Hazzard
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    Its been almost a year since I posted this thread and am just getting around to fixing the radiator.

    Why is it a bad idea to use RTV again? It stands up to high pressure + temperature in the automotive world, just wondering if it would help in this situation.
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 22,912
    It's not a bad idea, if you really need it. But not on the mating faces of the nipple and its seats. Those are closely machined and, if they are in decent shape, should need no sealant at all. But see my earlier comment -- in some cases creating a ring gasket around the nipple -- but not on it -- may solve problems which are otherwise difficult.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • flat_twin
    flat_twin Member Posts: 350
    I had success by cleaning the nipples / mating surfaces thoroughly with steel wool and then a smear of gray pipe dope for reassembly.
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    I plan to take this radiator apart tonight (hopefully). 10 years ago I tried packing the joint with JB Weld to try and seal up the leak from the outside. Actually held up for a couple of years.

    I'll post some pictures when I get into it.

    The mechanic in me really wants to smear RTV on it and put it back together if the nipples are still good. We'll see, its my house so if I screw it up I can just do it over free of charge!
  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,849
    I'd try hi-tack copper instead of RTV.
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA
    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • AdmiralYoda
    AdmiralYoda Member Posts: 618
    I'd try hi-tack copper instead of RTV.
    Like Permatex Ultra Copper or some other thing I'm not familiar with?