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Sizing for Hot Water Boiler

razzorrazzor Posts: 11Member
Hi,

I am looking to replace an 17 year old Burnham V75 boiler with a Biasi B10/4. Trying to figure out the proper BTU needed and have done a bunch of heat loss calculations. I used CoolCalc, Slant Fin, and even the Weil McClain manual version. My house is about 2800 sq feet and was built in 1997 so well insulated with decent windows in Southern Maine. My old Burnham says Net IBR our 166,000. Seems way too big for my house. Plus I heat the 952 sq ft first floor living space with a pellet stove in the colder months. All my heat loss calculations at worst say around 77,000 btu if I use real liberal numbers. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Comments

  • razzorrazzor Posts: 11Member
    Also roughly 190 feet of baseboard fin heating.
  • GroundUpGroundUp Posts: 564Member
    77k seems about right for 2800 sq ft in that climate given your newish construction. 27.5 BTU/sq ft isn't out of the ordinary
  • STEVEusaPASTEVEusaPA Posts: 3,083Member
    edited June 2
    Which city? How much oil did your burn in the last year/season?
    Do you have a coil for domestic hot water productions?
    My guess is the smallest one is probably fine or slightly oversized.
    But a detailed heat loss will let you know for sure.
    steve
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    The B-4 will give a net of 96K BTU so that's still overkill for what you described. Is your mind set on Biasi only? The contractor is paramount. Get some estimates and see what's offered comparable to what your looking for. Buderus, Trio. Weil McLain and others offer 3 pass high efficiency boilers. Also an Energy Kinetics System 2000, EK-1 Frontier is an excellent system to look into.
    Also, chances are any upgrade from the V7 will require a stainless steel chimney liner if not already there.
  • razzorrazzor Posts: 11Member
    Follow up. My plumber seems to think I need enough btu to power the 190 feet of hot water baseboard but the heat loss calculations say otherwise. Multiplied by 580 = 110,000 btu. I get a Heatloss of 80,000 btu using Slant Fin or Cool Calc using conservative numbers. Kind of confused! Thanks.
  • ZmanZman Posts: 4,997Member
    edited August 3
    Using the existing baseboard lengths tell you the max amount of energy your baseboards can emit, not what is needed to heat the house. The heat loss is the best way to size the boiler.
    It would be very surprising if your heat loss is greater than 77k

    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
    Albert Einstein
  • HVACNUTHVACNUT Posts: 2,330Member
    Sounds like you need a new plumber. Or heating contractor. The Buderus G115/3 has a net IBR of 74K.
    The Trio P3, 79K net.
    The Biasi B-4, 96K net.
    It seems you're more experienced than the plumber.
  • hot_rodhot_rod Posts: 11,685Member
    How has the home been heating, does it maintain temperature on the coldest days? Does the boiler cycle off on design days? Does the pellet stove need to run to stay comfortable?

    If the system was sized exactly correct and installed and controlled properly it would run non stop on design day.

    Good news that you have that much baseboard, if your load calc is accurate you should be able to run at temperatures below the typical 180F design, and increase efficiency of the new boiler.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    The magic is in hydronics, and hydronics is in me
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