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ISO OLD OIL BURNERS

rwhtg
rwhtg Member Posts: 34
I'm searching for old oil heating paraphernalia. Oil burners that are not in service from the 1940's-1980's era. Also any type of old industry Literature. I have a small collection from on the job over the years but i dont run across too may of the really old burners and or heating accessories, i.e. taco side arm heaters, timken burners, ABC burners, Sunray burners, etc. im searching the New England area and NY/ NJ.
Skilled labor isn’t cheap, cheap labor isn’t skilled.

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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 4,237
    I have a Mercoid stack relay. the box is dry rot and falling apart. looks like it may have been installed at one time for a very short time. The Helix is very clean the cloth insulated wires are in good shape. just has a little rust on the probe.
    Edward Young
    Retired HVAC Contractor from So. Jersey.
    Services first oil burner at age 16
    P/T trainer for EH-CC.org

    rwhtg
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    my parents had a luxaire lowboy furnace from the late 50's that had an oil burner of a design that I have not seen elsewhere. the motor shaft seemed to be perpendicular to the front of the furnace, the blower was around the outside of it and was in the same plane as the front of the furnace and the pump was sort of on the top center of the front of it.
    rwhtg
  • rwhtg
    rwhtg Member Posts: 34
    Where are you located do you have a pic of the oil burner?
    Skilled labor isn’t cheap, cheap labor isn’t skilled.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    I don't think i have a picture, if it would be some random picture it just happened to be in. It has been gone since the late 80's. Sorry. It was in metro Detroit.
    rwhtg
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 786
    While you're at it, I've searched for a small residential dual-fuel Sun-ray for many years. Never found one.
    rwhtg
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,646
    We have a bunch out in the shed- some Esso burners in particular, including the one we replaced in this thread:

    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/160431/any-hope-for-my-national-heat-extractor-100-series-oil-boiler

    Located in Baltimore, but perhaps we can meet up somewhere.

    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 4,762
    My garage is my happy place, so you can't have it.
    ratio
  • rwhtg
    rwhtg Member Posts: 34
    HVACNUT said:

    My garage is my happy place, so you can't have it.

    Awesome collection!
    Skilled labor isn’t cheap, cheap labor isn’t skilled.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    It had this plump or a variation on it. I remember the 2 rectangular caps on the top:


    I didn't find a picture of it but i did learn i was a strange child, lots of pictures of odd things but none of the furnace.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 12,637
    Those old Websters (model P ?) were quite common when I started. You took one of the caps off and turned it to change from 1 pipe to 2 pipe. The pump shaft was smaller too 1/4" I believe. They worked ok
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,778
    Back in the early 80's I worked on a old rotary cup burner in the rockville old folks home. Probably still there.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 1,966
    Webster pumps .. The bellows use to go . On a safety call you would test them by increasing the pressure though the screw in the top of the cover with an 1/8" Allen key , if the flame dropped out you needed to replace the bellows .I use the same method checking Sunstrands .

    I Forgot about the cover switching it to two pipe system ..


    Noticed the Gulf Econo Jet tag .. Didn't they use there own nozzle with the Venturi air holes ?


    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    @EBEBRATT-Ed I'm still trying to figure what the burner was that my parents had when I was a kid. I assume whoever the heating contractor was for the tract housing installed hundreds or thousands of them in the 50's in metro detroit. It was a gun type burner but the shaft was perpendicular to the front of the furnace instead of parallel so the blower was around the outside of it and the oil pump was on the front instead of side. It was on an around 100,000 btu/hr Luxaire and I have seen the same furnace with a gas burner and the observation door blanked off.

    It was probably the next generation after this furnace:
    https://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/JPEG/BASKET/2015/20150117/ovrphil-2015011709163901910_1.jpg

    I assume Webster just made the fuel pumps, not whole burners?
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,646
    @mattmia2 , maybe this one? Both the burner and furnasty were made in Elyria, OH:

    https://www.beckettcorp.com/commodorelabels/
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    HVACNUTmattmia2STEVEusaPA
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 12,637
    So they were like an "inline burner " Beckett Commodore" was one, I think ABC might have made one. The one I remember you took a plate off the side of the blast tube to pull the gun assembly out.
    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    If it wasn't a beckett commodore, it was very similar. i remember the transformer underneath like that. It didn't have a pedestal, it was just hung off the front of the furnace. I remember one year the tech unbolted something and kind of tilted the whole thing down and cleaned the blower with a brush from the back
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    Even knowing what it is called, google still can't find a picture of an actual unit.
  • P_G_
    P_G_ Member Posts: 9
    My current system is an oil boiler, house is 70yrs old and I think it's original to the house. I'll be changing it out this summer; can ask the contractor to save parts. I can send you pics. In New England.
  • LS123
    LS123 Member Posts: 466
    edited April 2020
    Hello @rwhtg ,

    I have a original boiler from 1950 when the house was built.

    It used to run on coal and the converted to oil fired steam. It seems like the burner may be from 1980s.

    See attached, let me know if you are interested. I can send you more pictures if you like. everything works fine only negative is oil burning efficiency. original make and model included.

    I am in North West Connecticut.
    best!












    Thank you!
    @LS123
  • Grallert
    Grallert Member Posts: 536
    That's not a motor. It appears to be a heat exchanger of some kind. Maybe to preheat domestic water for another water heater during the heating season. It appears too small the carry the full residential load of domestic hot water.
  • LS123
    LS123 Member Posts: 466
    no hot water is on electric. boiler is converted from coal to oil. Boiler has been aroiund for 70 years with steam radiant heat
    Thank you!
    @LS123
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,637
    I like the creative use of the conduit body and floor flange
  • LS123
    LS123 Member Posts: 466
    yes, it will last another 70 years easily :)
    Thank you!
    @LS123
  • jcallahan
    jcallahan Member Posts: 1
    I have an old ESSO oil burner from 1945 still have paperwork for it.