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Can anyone identify this manifold? — needs valve replacements

A customer had this set of roughly 20-year-old manifolds with some valves that leak and some that stick due to broken internal springs. I can find no manufacturer's identification other than the "dual wavy line" emblem shown in the second attached photo. The actuators are Wirsbo but the manifolds are not. Third photo shows the valve I need.




Thanks for any leads on parts.
Sol Brother

Comments

  • rick in Alaskarick in Alaska Posts: 855Member
    I am not positive, but it looks a lot like a Wirsbo truflow manifold, or at least very close resemblance. But from what I can see, the replacement seal looks like it is a little different on the seal end.
    Maybe it is an earlier version of a wirsbo manifold.
    Rick
  • Sol_BrotherSol_Brother Posts: 4Member
    Thanks for the response. I sent the photo to a tech at Wirsbo who said it was none of theirs.
    Sol Brother
  • HEATONHEATON Posts: 110Member
    Watts radiant?
  • Intplm.Intplm. Posts: 760Member
    This has become such a big issue.
    I'm wondering why manufacturers do not put the names on there stuff like they used to.
    In the past you couldn't miss who made what. ?
    I do not understand this "trend".
  • Intplm.Intplm. Posts: 760Member
    Did Uponor make Wirsbo like Viessmann made pipe in different diameters or (metric) to not match American pipe sizes way back when.
    Could this be a Wirsbo , Uponor thing??
    A manufacturing hiccup?
  • LeonardLeonard Posts: 837Member
    edited February 12
    I'm wondering why manufacturers do not put the names on there stuff like they used to.

    Likely manufacters are buying "off the shelf" from cheap suppliers and don't want to spend $$ putting their numbers on it. Likely a small company or it would lead to inventory control problems if had many similar parts.
  • hot_rodhot_rod Posts: 11,624Member
    looks like a Sparco logo?
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    The magic is in hydronics, and hydronics is in me
  • Intplm.Intplm. Posts: 760Member
    Leonard said:

    I'm wondering why manufacturers do not put the names on there stuff like they used to.

    Likely manufacters are buying "off the shelf" from cheap suppliers and don't want to spend $$ putting their numbers on it. Likely a small company or it would lead to inventory control problems if had many similar parts.

    Its' an opportunity lost in advertising. In company recognition.
    The more the product is shown and recognized, the better for the product, the customer, buyer, installer, owner.

    Surely you will agree. ?

    This just seems to contribute to the throw away society.
  • SENWiEcoSENWiEco Posts: 58Member
    @Sol_Brother - Based on web search looks similar to Mr. Pex and this looks like your part
    theEnclosure.ca
    Sean Wiens
  • HaroldHarold Posts: 201Member
    Even more annoying is manufactures not keeping valves for the manifolds in a long term stock. Manifolds are sort of supposed to be forever.

    I have had to replace some manifolds simply because there were no parts available. Installation was about 15 years old. It is a lot of money when only a couple of valves are bad.
  • GroundUpGroundUp Posts: 541Member
    I've got some Zurn manifolds with the same brass log, but different valves... Also have some Wirsbo that look very similar. Wonder if there was a bulk manufacture of the logs at some point and several companies marketed them as their own with final assembly at their plants?
  • Intplm.Intplm. Posts: 760Member
    Wow. Is that what it says? Eagle eyes for sure.
  • hot_rodhot_rod Posts: 11,624Member
    Here is a Honeywell/ Sparco mix valve, look like the same logo?

    Looks close, or a knock-off
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    The magic is in hydronics, and hydronics is in me
  • Sol_BrotherSol_Brother Posts: 4Member
    Good eye, Hot Rod, seeing the match to Sparco's logo. I knew I had seen those SS somewhere.... Thing is, I can't find any evidence that they made manifolds. I wrote a note to Honeywell (who now owns Sparco) but of course, the possibility of finding anyone who knows product history at a huge corporation like that, or even getting a human to respond to an email, is slim. No response from them.

    And to SENWiEco, yes it is very similar to the Mr PEX. I had been convinced it was not theirs because the shaft in the middle looks to be longer on the one I have than on theirs, but maybe I am just being fooled by the photos. I will get a Mr PEX valve in my next Supply House order and give it a try. I have some Wirsbo/Uponor valves which are also very similar but not quite the same.
    Sol Brother
  • Sol_BrotherSol_Brother Posts: 4Member
    Aha, Sparco did make manifolds, but not like this one. Cleaning out an old folder of miscellaneous valve information, I found a brochure that included this photo, obviously different in every way from the one I am dealing with.

    Sol Brother
  • Solid_Fuel_ManSolid_Fuel_Man Posts: 1,581Member
    That Sparco looks like the early 1990s Wisrbo for sure.
    Master electrician specialising in boiler and burner controls, multiple fuel systems, radiant system controls, building controls, and universal refrigeration tech.
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