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Before and after video, copper piping Gone!

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GW
GW Member Posts: 4,695
in Strictly Steam
https://youtu.be/Kqgv418yLqs

https://youtu.be/caOvy-WZFlc
Gary Wilson
Wilson Services, Inc
Northampton, MA
gary@wilsonph.com
KC_Joneskcoppjlo1029adasilva

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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    Quite an improvement!
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    Wow, Much better!
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,695
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    Thanks, y’all see 1 1/2” mains in your travels? The system heats much better says the home owner
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
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    GW said:

    Thanks, y’all see 1 1/2” mains in your travels? The system heats much better says the home owner

    1 1/2" mains are small. Can't be many radiators on them and the ones that are have to be small too.
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,296
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    Nice install Gary. I see a fare amount of 11/2” mains. There’s a 3-4 block area of South Orange NJ that all the houses where built by the same developer back in early 1900’s and all the house are alike with the same layout. Every single one of those homes have single pipe steam with 11/2” steam mains.
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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    My mains reduce from 2 to 1 1/2 about halfway through with concentric reducing tees that are also used as radiator takeoffs. Pretty much every rule has been broken on my system, but it still works well.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,177
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    I service a system Bloomfield NJ both mains are 1-1/2 and its an old house steam system definitely an add on. It works fine.
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  • coelcanth
    coelcanth Member Posts: 89
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    KC_Jones said:

    My mains reduce from 2 to 1 1/2 about halfway through with concentric reducing tees that are also used as radiator takeoffs. Pretty much every rule has been broken on my system, but it still works well.

    mines here in new york city are similar, reducing tees and 1-1/2" or less but split into four parts to run front and back of house for each of two floors
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,574
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    Nice job Gary,
    Did you put the grinder and cutting disk to the test?

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,070
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    A great improvement, even sounds better?

    I looked inside one of those Dunkirk side outlets and noticed how small the push nipples were across the top.
    They were about 1 1/2" compared to the 2 1/2" discharge.
    It seemed that when skimming out the 2 1/2 nipple only the water from the closest section would be flowing as the bottom of the next section push nipple is much higher than the bottom of the 2 1/2 nipple.
    I added a 2 1/2 x 1 1/2 reducing coupling for skimming so the water had to rise up more in the boiler and come from each section for skimming. FWIW.
    SeanBeans
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,695
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    Yes that gas gun was a little loud.

    Ok I will peek inside the boiler on our next install. When I skim I try to boiler out the top layer first, then step two is “flooding” the block and getting big flow. Then I repeat that process.

    Ed I haven’t got the new tools yet. I did try step one——got a basic grinder and I can’t get the old wheel off! I need the skinny wrench. Or, maybe there’s a magic button to lock the motor; gotta look again
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,574
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    Lock the motor and use a pair of gloves u can usually get the wheel off. I can never find the skinny wrench when I need it
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,695
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    ok my cheapie doesn't have the magic button; i'll figure out a way to remove it
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,868
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    GW said:

    Thanks, y’all see 1 1/2” mains in your travels? The system heats much better says the home owner

    Yup, the Charles Village and Hampden neighborhoods of Baltimore are full of them. I've even seen a couple that were counterflow. They work....................
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    Towson, MD, USA
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    GW
  • SeanBeans
    SeanBeans Member Posts: 520
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    > @JUGHNE said:
    > A great improvement, even sounds better?
    >
    > I looked inside one of those Dunkirk side outlets and noticed how small the push nipples were across the top.
    > They were about 1 1/2" compared to the 2 1/2" discharge.
    > It seemed that when skimming out the 2 1/2 nipple only the water from the closest section would be flowing as the bottom of the next section push nipple is much higher than the bottom of the 2 1/2 nipple.
    > I added a 2 1/2 x 1 1/2 reducing coupling for skimming so the water had to rise up more in the boiler and come from each section for skimming. FWIW.

    Very true!
  • coelcanth
    coelcanth Member Posts: 89
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    Steamhead said:

    GW said:

    Thanks, y’all see 1 1/2” mains in your travels? The system heats much better says the home owner

    Yup, the Charles Village and Hampden neighborhoods of Baltimore are full of them. I've even seen a couple that were counterflow. They work....................
    lucky ! i think most of the (small) houses i remember being in around there had the vintage forced air with the huge 4x4 foot register in the center of the house

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