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Warren Webster radiators, trap inserts

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Mike_Sheppard
Mike_Sheppard Member Posts: 696
edited January 2019 in THE MAIN WALL
I’ve attached several pictures of the radiator (convectors?)

This customer has hundreds of these in his building. Probably half of them are passing steam into the returns. Some area cracked and leaking.

Is there anywhere to buy replacements? What kind of trap inserts will fit? Are there replacements for the supply valve?
Never stop learning.

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  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,536
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    Oh @Sailah ! Check with Barnes & Jones -- they have replacement innards for almost all common traps.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,940
    edited January 2019
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    The replacement parts in the pic look like Barnes & Jones- just get the same part number.

    Regarding the leaky elements- I think those are cast iron, not sure if they can be welded shut. If not, get a replacement element from Beacon-Morris, Governale, OCS etc. of the same physical size, and install a separate trap and, if needed, shutoff valve.

    Also, if traps are failing quickly, the steam pressure may be too high.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
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  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 919
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    The manifolds for those convector coils are probably brass which can be silver soldered. Buying the replacement traps has been answered by others
  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
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    The part number of cage unit (4330) is stamped on the B&J cover. The cover only needs replacing once. So if you are just swapping cage units order 4330. If you have original WW covers, you'd need to order 4330 (cage unit) and 4330C (cover)
    Peter Owens
    SteamIQ
  • Mike_Sheppard
    Mike_Sheppard Member Posts: 696
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    Thank you all! Much appreciated
    Never stop learning.
  • Dmendy1
    Dmendy1 Member Posts: 4
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    Super Long shot. Any chance you have and submittal / performance data literature on those radiators?
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,192
    edited January 2023
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    Noel Murdough RIP. Deadman -Legend turned me on to Tunstall in Chicopee Mass for all things Steam traps, Capsules, Custom made replacements, TRVs, et cetera.  Woody is very helpful. Barnes and Jones is a very good product too. Love those Big mouth traps. Mad dog.