Noncondensing Combi?

GW

Anyone got any ideas on a combination boiler, noncondensing? I have a condo/apartment situation. No way the drain anything.

the_donut

Can’t treat the condensate and pump it up?

bob eck

Columbia Steel Boiler Company builds a steel gas boiler with a built in domestic coil.
Columbia Boilers are built in Pennsylvania and I work for F W Webb in PA and we can get the boiler and sell it through one of our branches in MA.
Give me a call tomorrow at my office. 484-488-3669.

EBEBRATT-Ed

Doesn't Utica have something?

GW

I don’t know, between the lack of replies here and FW Webb Co. saying they don’t have anything, I told the property owner to go with the condensing unit or keep tracking down Plumbers. I tossed out a random number for condensing unit in a conversation and not too long after that.

kcopp

Embassy had the Axia boiler but discontinued.
They replaced w/ this....

http://www.embassyind.com/celsior

JoeyG_2

Utica has the CuB series. It's a Non-Condensing Wall-Hung Combi. They also have a Heat-Only version.

The Steam Whisperer

The Peerless EC has an optional hot water coil. We fire them with a Midco Gas burner, though oil is OK too.

GW

Thanks all. It's in a bathroom so we would need a sealed unit.

Bob, thanks, I somehow didnt see your reply until later last night.

That Utica looks good, and PlimntonHills has it, they said they can get it to me today! wow

GW

OK I take that back, Monday 1st thing.

gschallert

GW said:

Thanks all. It's in a bathroom so we would need a sealed unit.

It's going in a bathroom and you can't get the condensate line to a drain? *scratches head*

ratio

Somewhere I've got a pic of a vinyl tube sillyconed into a p trap. There were water stains under it for some reason.

GW

Condensate drain into the bathroom sink? It’s a wall hung lavatory with chrome P-trap. Sure, I can do that. It would look disastrous though. If the sink was mounted on the wall where the boiler is, I wouldn’t be going through this whole process.

So my new problem is the new boiler is 150k and the old one was 105k. I looked at the gas line and it's too small. That created other costs.

I just learned the the other plumber will do the job; not sure what boiler he has in mind.

Thanks for all of the comments

EBEBRATT-Ed

@GW
We have used the Utica condensing with good results. Bell Simons has them. have not used the non condensing that @JoeyG mentioned but I thought Utica had something

GW

Thanks Ed yes the Utica non condense looked sweet, but the gas pipe is small and another plumber slipped in the back door. I'm cool, we have work!

kcopp

Curious.... what is/was there for a 105k btu combi?

Snowmelt

I’m in the same situation, maybe they installed an indirect water heater, I want to try the combi cub from Utica myself. Does anyone have any pics of the combi cub in action.

kcopp

I installed one Cub...
Not overly impressed... lots of plastic parts inside.

GW

This was th old unit, no idea what it is

kcopp

That's the old Burnham Minuteman 2 unit. Their answer to the Heatmaker

Danny Scully

I think in your attempt at simplicity, you’re actually complicating things @GW. If you’re installing this in a bathroom you can figure a way to drain the condensate, I believe in you!

Danny Scully

Now that I’ve caught up on the comments, I believe in you for the next job

GW

Yes draining is always possible but how ugly is another topic. Unless some plumbers out there have some pixi dust they sprinkle on their pipes, I’m not sure what magic can be used for this 3rd floor apartment bathroom. Apparently there was a kitchen below the bathroom so not even a clean way to route a pipe to the basement

I thought about the heat maker but I don’t have great feelings about that unit.