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Noncondensing Combi?

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GW
GW Member Posts: 4,700
Anyone got any ideas on a combination boiler, noncondensing? I have a condo/apartment situation. No way the drain anything.
Gary Wilson
Wilson Services, Inc
Northampton, MA
gary@wilsonph.com

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  • the_donut
    the_donut Member Posts: 374
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    Can’t treat the condensate and pump it up?
  • bob eck
    bob eck Member Posts: 930
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    Columbia Steel Boiler Company builds a steel gas boiler with a built in domestic coil.
    Columbia Boilers are built in Pennsylvania and I work for F W Webb in PA and we can get the boiler and sell it through one of our branches in MA.
    Give me a call tomorrow at my office. 484-488-3669.
    GWSuperTech
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,612
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    Doesn't Utica have something?
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    I don’t know, between the lack of replies here and FW Webb Co. saying they don’t have anything, I told the property owner to go with the condensing unit or keep tracking down Plumbers. I tossed out a random number for condensing unit in a conversation and not too long after that.
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,440
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    Embassy had the Axia boiler but discontinued.
    They replaced w/ this....

    http://www.embassyind.com/celsior
    GW
  • JoeyG_2
    JoeyG_2 Member Posts: 14
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    Utica has the CuB series. It's a Non-Condensing Wall-Hung Combi. They also have a Heat-Only version.

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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,218
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    The Peerless EC has an optional hot water coil. We fire them with a Midco Gas burner, though oil is OK too.
    To learn more about this professional, click here to visit their ad in Find A Contractor.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    Thanks all. It's in a bathroom so we would need a sealed unit.

    Bob, thanks, I somehow didnt see your reply until later last night.

    That Utica looks good, and PlimntonHills has it, they said they can get it to me today! wow
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    OK I take that back, Monday 1st thing.
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • gschallert
    gschallert Member Posts: 170
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    GW said:

    Thanks all. It's in a bathroom so we would need a sealed unit.

    It's going in a bathroom and you can't get the condensate line to a drain? *scratches head*
    SuperTech
  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,649
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    Somewhere I've got a pic of a vinyl tube sillyconed into a p trap. There were water stains under it for some reason.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    Condensate drain into the bathroom sink? It’s a wall hung lavatory with chrome P-trap. Sure, I can do that. It would look disastrous though. If the sink was mounted on the wall where the boiler is, I wouldn’t be going through this whole process.

    So my new problem is the new boiler is 150k and the old one was 105k. I looked at the gas line and it's too small. That created other costs.

    I just learned the the other plumber will do the job; not sure what boiler he has in mind.

    Thanks for all of the comments
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,612
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    @GW
    We have used the Utica condensing with good results. Bell Simons has them. have not used the non condensing that @JoeyG mentioned but I thought Utica had something
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    Thanks Ed yes the Utica non condense looked sweet, but the gas pipe is small and another plumber slipped in the back door. I'm cool, we have work!
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,440
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    Curious.... what is/was there for a 105k btu combi?
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,416
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    I’m in the same situation, maybe they installed an indirect water heater, I want to try the combi cub from Utica myself. Does anyone have any pics of the combi cub in action.
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,440
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    I installed one Cub...
    Not overly impressed... lots of plastic parts inside.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    This was th old unit, no idea what it is
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,440
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    That's the old Burnham Minuteman 2 unit. Their answer to the Heatmaker
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,426
    edited May 2018
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    I think in your attempt at simplicity, you’re actually complicating things @GW. If you’re installing this in a bathroom you can figure a way to drain the condensate, I believe in you! :wink:
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,426
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    Now that I’ve caught up on the comments, I believe in you for the next job :lol:
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,700
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    Yes draining is always possible but how ugly is another topic. Unless some plumbers out there have some pixi dust they sprinkle on their pipes, I’m not sure what magic can be used for this 3rd floor apartment bathroom. Apparently there was a kitchen below the bathroom so not even a clean way to route a pipe to the basement

    I thought about the heat maker but I don’t have great feelings about that unit.
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com