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I put in Gorton 1s since the pipe is near the ceiling I am afraid that it will ruin the wood

acl10
acl10 Member Posts: 349
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I put in Gorton 1s since the pipe is near the ceiling I am afraid that it will ruin the wood. When the boiler is on moist air comes out and it could rot the wood after a while. What does everyone else do about this problem

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,387
    Moist air while the system is venting? Shouldn't be a problem- as long as they close when steam enters them.
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  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279
    Are we talking fine finished wood or typical rough basement floor joists with bare lumber above?
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    If it becomes a problem which I doubt, the vents can be piped in high up on the vertical pipe coming down from the return. I don’t think you will have a problem though, except the venting capacity may not be adequate. Ideally, you need roughly one Gorton #1 for each 10 feet of 2 inch pipe.—NBC
  • acl10
    acl10 Member Posts: 349
    Bare lumber. I felt the moist hot air coming out. Wont that rot the wood over time
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279
    The moist air should stop when the steam gets to the vent.
    The same amount of air will be passed regardless of the vent size. A larger vent would get it over with quicker.....the whole purpose of being big.

    If it passes more than a whisper of steam then you have a problem.
    The moisture on the wood should dry up quickly.
    There are houses that have had this happen for 80-100 years.
    Yes, if it blows steam you could see some damage, but for the most part maybe just some discoloration.
  • acl10
    acl10 Member Posts: 349
    Here are pictures of the two sets of vents. These were installed on two separate pipes at the end of the main in the meter room.
    On each I put one Ventrite 75 and one Gorton 1 on a 3 inch high pipe.





  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    Screw a piece of sheet metal to the underside of the floor- done :smile:
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  • gennady
    gennady Member Posts: 839
    edited January 2018
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  • acl10
    acl10 Member Posts: 349
    Another problem I have is that after they vent the air they fill up with water and leak on the cement floor> i had this when I had Gorton ds and now that I changed them to 1s they are still spurting water after they finish venting air and the condensate comes back. I dont real have a better place to put the vents because the rest of the basement is finished.
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,840
    It's a bit hard to tell for sure from the pics, but I think you have a slope issue with your vent piping. All the vent piping needs to slope back towards the main piping. It appears you have the pipe tapped on the lower portion of the main which would cause that nipple to run uphill towards the main.

    Also with the tee the way you have it, one is slopping towards the main one is sloping away. If you cause water to sit in those pipes the water will constantly be shot towards the vent, cooling it down and opening it up and then it spits.
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  • acl10
    acl10 Member Posts: 349
    Can I install a Gorton 1 at an angle like a 45 degree . I want to put in on a longer pipe and extend it it will still drain back or does it have to be strait up
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,502
    It should be installed as vertical as you can get it, at 45 degrees it will probably spit a lot because all the water can't drain out of it.

    Bob
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    I can't tell from the pictures, but are those vents just tapped into the side of a pipe? Maybe thats why they spit.
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  • acl10
    acl10 Member Posts: 349
    edited January 2018
    One is tapped on the side and one on the pipe going up. I think one of the Gortons that was leaking is defective because when I turned it over and blew into it it didnt shut. I will change it and see.

    I put the ventrites on the pipe tapped on the side and they dont leak.
  • mikeg2015
    mikeg2015 Member Posts: 1,194
    Normally these are near the boiler, so the air up there is fairly warm, so no risk of condensation on the wood. The sheetmetal idea is good. But otherwise I wouldn't worry about it. Old growth lumber form before 1940 is almost as good as treated lumber now. Most basements before the invention of humidifiers were typicality very, very damp.

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