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RePiped returns

Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 650
Did a small job repiping the wet return, it was all in copper and was waaay high, plus were adding a radiator to a newly built room so we extended the steam main another six feet.

I didn’t put the boiler in nor does the homeowner know as he bought the house with it, but it’s not all that bad, the installer used a drop header, albeit in 2” but hey it’s better then I’ve seen.





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  • Nicely done. Clean and proper as always.
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  • EzzyTEzzyT Member Posts: 659
    Nice job Dave
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 11,383
    Agreed. Now all you need is for Sparky to clean up that spaghetti-like wiring mess.

    What size Crown is that?
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  • Paul SPaul S Member Posts: 1,234
    nice job
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  • Danny ScullyDanny Scully Member Posts: 644
    I don’t know, looks like that one return is riding close to the “A” dimension :wink: great job as always @Dave0176
  • EBEBRATT-EdEBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 2,505
    Don't take this the wrong way cause you did a nice job and I probably done it the same way, but now you have an electrical violation.

    Electrical work space at an electrical panel is supposed to be the width of the panel or 30' whichever is greater. Also no obstructions from the floor to the ceiling, so no piping under or over a panel.

    Of course we all know that this has never been violated on any jobs LOL

    Used to be on a commercial job they would put a panel on the wall and put the 480-208 volt step down transformer on the floor in front of it. Can't do that anymore

    In any event, that thing is ready for a new electric service and some fixing up. They can easily build off the wall with some strut and set the panel into the basement a foot or so.

    Also, with that header did the original installer get that 24" above the water line??
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 650
    edited October 12

    Don't take this the wrong way cause you did a nice job and I probably done it the same way, but now you have an electrical violation.

    Electrical work space at an electrical panel is supposed to be the width of the panel or 30' whichever is greater. Also no obstructions from the floor to the ceiling, so no piping under or over a panel.

    Of course we all know that this has never been violated on any jobs LOL

    Used to be on a commercial job they would put a panel on the wall and put the 480-208 volt step down transformer on the floor in front of it. Can't do that anymore

    In any event, that thing is ready for a new electric service and some fixing up. They can easily build off the wall with some strut and set the panel into the basement a foot or so.

    Also, with that header did the original installer get that 24" above the water line??

    It’s clear of the panel all around, would it pass inspection idk depends on the inspector. However as you can tell that panel needs to be addressed. To me it appears that a home owner did the panel replacement. The current HO just purchased the home a few years ago, so it passed inspection amazingly and he got the CO
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  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 3,286
    edited October 12
    My Electrical AHJ would really start quoting chapter and verse out of the NEC.
    The top foot print of the panel should have clearance to the ceiling.
    That steam pipe might pass if the panel was shielded from any leaks...think rain gutter under main.
    The 30" width clearance is OK as you measure from the right side of the panel.
    But the real sin is the pipes below......

    This is all unnecessary discussion as that electrical panel was never inspected and probably never will be.
    The conductor to the ground clamp before the water meter looks suspicious.

    If push came to shove which was there first.....electrical panel or piping?
    At least you can open the door to panel and remove cover.....sometimes that isn't possible because of piping.

    Note: you did very good work, which should shame the workmanship of the want-to-be electrician.
  • EBEBRATT-EdEBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 2,505
    I agree with @JUGHNE you did a fine job.

    I probably shouldn't have said anything but being an electrician these things jump out at me.

    A lot of stuff passed in the old days that wouldn't pass now and the existing electrical was in need of an upgrade long before you got there.
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