Debate on terminology

hot_rod

That's how I see it also. Any chamber that contains the fire could be a furnace, regardless of what it heats. The old BOF basic oxygen furnaces melted steel at the Lackawana Plant near where I grew up.

Paul48

That would be the area of hot air?

Paul48

They are using the term to differentiate parts of the boiler, because it makes it very easy to understand what part of the boiler they are talking about. Like heating systems.....boiler vs. furnace should be easily understood. It always use to be.

ChrisJ

Up next, Stillson wrench vs Pipe wrench.

newagedawn

yoo say tomato, i say tomato

HVACNUT

Ugh. I have a headache from this. Think I'll go sit in my recessed basin automatic bubble maker filled with liquid from the hot water generator. Now, what's the diff between a joint and a blunt? My consensus is a blunt can be a joint, but a joint can't be a blunt. And if you use a Cuban wrapper, are you breaking the law twice?

Charlie from wmass

Stillson is a brand name and specific design. Pipe wrench is a group of tools. Rigid pipe wrench from Ohio is the only one worth owning. No debate.

Charlie from wmass

I live in Massachusetts @HVACNUT both are legal here. Not really my type of hobby but legal.

ChrisJ

Toilet,John,commode,Crapper etc?

HVACNUT

> @Charlie from wmass said:
> @HVACNUT both are legal here. Not really my type of hobby but legal.

>>judging from the intensity of the opinions in this thread, I thought you were all stoned out of your gourds. I thought it was a Hershey thing with all that chocolate around and all.

Charlie from wmass

We are nothing if not passionate. Stone cold sober.

Charlie from wmass

@ChrisJ water closet.

ChrisJ

Charlie from wmass said:

@ChrisJ water closet.

Water closet or WC?
I prefer The WC my self.

Sounds more............official.

I've got about 10 other names for it as well.

KC_Jones

I use the term "facilities" in public.

At home with 3 kids it gets all kinds of fun names that I won't mention, mainly in reference to making sure all the excrement goes into said container.

j a_2

Y'all , you all.....Yonder, over there...green backs, mpc.

MikeL_2

I was always scolded for using the phrase " hot water heater " to describe a residential water heater..........

Charlie from wmass

@MikeL as you should have been. Lol My father was the worst offender so I got a pass.

MikeL_2

I was told if it was a HOT water heater why would you need it? I learned that lesson in the late 1960's......

ChrisJ

Just wait until the next time I see someone say "Condensing hot water boiler".

Arguing over the term "hot water heater" and claiming you can't call a boiler a furnace, and yet being totally ok with calling hot water boilers, that do not boil, boilers is a bit ridiculous.



Yes, I call it a boiler too and overall I agree that a furnace and boiler are different. But I don't think anyone should be scalded or even corrected over it.

That's all.
Honestly this started over me busting Charles's chops on FB.
He's just not willing to admit defeat so decided to start a public survey.

Gordy

usually here "furnaces" are referenced as farced air, scorched air, furnasty,

But if you want to call your steam boiler a furnace @ChrisJ , and field questions about people's furnace systems that make steam it's okay.

Charlie from wmass

Still am not admitting to you being correct @ChrisJ

Rich_49

Wow , the industry must need to get together now and hash out how what we refer to as a heat exchanger in a boiler will furthermore be known as a furnace . Maybe we should just call them combustion chambers though . LMFAO

ChrisJ

Rich said:

Wow , the industry must need to get together now and hash out how what we refer to as a heat exchanger in a boiler will furthermore be known as a furnace . Maybe we should just call them combustion chambers though . LMFAO

Nope.
Charles just needs to admit he was wrong, for once.

I know.............I've got a better chance of seeing god.

Charlie from wmass

When Rich and I agree I I am sure it is a sign of the end of days. LOL

Larry Weingarten

To those who have mentioned hot water heater... perhaps they really are cold water heaters...

Yours, Larry

Charlie from wmass

The only time I have ever used a hot water heater has been for a commercial kitchen to supply the dishwasher where I get 125 degree water and raise up to 160 degrees for the dishwasher.

ChrisJ

Charlie from wmass said:

The only time I have ever used a hot water heater has been for a commercial kitchen to supply the dishwasher where I get 125 degree water and raise up to 160 degrees for the dishwasher.

So you consider 125F to be hot water? So if a water heater takes in 125F water, you're ok with calling it a "hot water heater" ? But 125F is cool compared to 160F.


40F is really hot compared to -100F.

Charlie from wmass

@ChrisJ yes

Harvey Ramer

This argument is as pointless as the ones me and my brothers had when I was a kid.

But carry on.

KC_Jones

Harvey Ramer said:

This argument is as pointless as the ones me and my brothers had when I was a kid.



But carry on.

Yes, but they put a smile on our faces.

Gordy

So I would say @ChrisJ lost this one hands down. Better go back to Facebook page, and declare defeat.

j a_2

Gordy said:

So I would say @ChrisJ lost this one hands down. Better go back to Facebook page, and declare defeat.

Got to agree with you Gordy...

ChrisJ

Never!

Charlie from wmass

Darn vikings never know when you've already lost.

ChrisJ

Charlie from wmass said:

Darn vikings never know when you've already lost.

Valhalla I am coming!!!!!!!!

Rich_49

ChrisJ said:

Charlie from wmass said:

The only time I have ever used a hot water heater has been for a commercial kitchen to supply the dishwasher where I get 125 degree water and raise up to 160 degrees for the dishwasher.

So you consider 125F to be hot water? So if a water heater takes in 125F water, you're ok with calling it a "hot water heater" ? But 125F is cool compared to 160F.


40F is really hot compared to -100F.

Time to stop with nonsensical comparative references ChrisJ . Please remember that many come here who have no clue about anything what so ever , should they read something like this someone could be put at risk . For anyone who may fit this description , there are varying definitions of hot water , many states recognize ASSE Standards and any questions or references to be considered should probably come from there , not the many Boobs who debate such subjects here , myself included .

Rich_49

Charlie from wmass said:

When Rich and I agree I I am sure it is a sign of the end of days. LOL

Even a liberal from Massachusetts is right occasionally .

BobC

@ChrisJ

The battle of Copenhagen - Ten thousand swedes beat the weeds looking for one Norwege, ten thousand more were held at the door by ONE Norwegian ****!

When my grandfather and uncle would hoist a few one of them would always start reciting that ditty but God help them if my grandmother heard them. Albert and Fritz were a good foot taller but you would be surprised at how fast a couple of 70 year old's could run when she got after them with a rolling pin in her hand!

Bob

ChrisJ

Rich said:

ChrisJ said:

Charlie from wmass said:

The only time I have ever used a hot water heater has been for a commercial kitchen to supply the dishwasher where I get 125 degree water and raise up to 160 degrees for the dishwasher.

So you consider 125F to be hot water? So if a water heater takes in 125F water, you're ok with calling it a "hot water heater" ? But 125F is cool compared to 160F.


40F is really hot compared to -100F.

Time to stop with nonsensical comparative references ChrisJ . Please remember that many come here who have no clue about anything what so ever , should they read something like this someone could be put at risk . For anyone who may fit this description , there are varying definitions of hot water , many states recognize ASSE Standards and any questions or references to be considered should probably come from there , not the many Boobs who debate such subjects here , myself included .

Agreed.

But Charles is still wrong.

Gordy

Nope tribal council has spoken. Come to terms with your defeat.