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Harvey Ramer
Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,217
This is why your house smelled like gas for the last 20 years. Contrary to what you were told, it didn't come from the fireplace.

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  • delta T
    delta T Member Posts: 860
    20 years!?? wow, this could have been a different story....
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,217
    I'm not sure it was exactly 20 years, but at any rate, it was that way since the house was built. The leak was in the basement and it was large enough that you could smell it in the 1st floor of the house.

    Yes, the story could have been different.
  • MilanD
    MilanD Member Posts: 1,159
    My neighbor had a small leak on her stove and immediately asked for help. It took me all 30 seconds locating it with some sniffing and then applying bubble water. Why do people allow this to go for 20 years is unbelievable!?!? Lucky for old windows, and less than tight building envelope, I suppose... and that it wasn't LP... wow...
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,838
    CSST?
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 11,974

    I'm not sure it was exactly 20 years, but at any rate, it was that way since the house was built. The leak was in the basement and it was large enough that you could smell it in the 1st floor of the house.



    Yes, the story could have been different.

    If you can smell it by the leak it's too much. Forget about in another location.

    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 17,065
    One very lucky puppy. May I suggest playing the lottery?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,242
    I want to know about the residue inside, along with what looks like a spider web.
    Rick
  • Canucker
    Canucker Member Posts: 701
    > @Jamie Hall said:
    > One very lucky puppy. May I suggest playing the lottery?

    I don't know @Jamie Hall , I think they used up all their luck already
    You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,217
    The tube was CSST. The tube was cut incorrectly as you can see by the deformations in the flare. About 3/4 of the flare is rolled in, and the rest is out.

    It was LPG. The blackish discoloration, I believe shows the leak path. The connection nut had the same discoloration. I have no idea about the cobweb inside, other than it must have been there when the pipe was installed, and it must have been right at the end of the roll.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 10,287
    CSST, just not worth the risk. I am sure the installer had his CSST certificate card in his pocket when he did the install.

    Workmanship still means something especially with gas and electrical.
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,470
    OK.......But the CSST was not the problem. The Tech not testing his connections, finding and fixing the leak, was the problem. Most people have cracked a black pipe fitting before. That could be just as deadly. I'm not for, or against CSST. How do you hook up a gas stove for someone?
    Rich_49
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,948
    Use an appliance connector, not CSST.
    It is not approved for repeated bending, IIRC.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 11,974
    I still want to know how many times an appliance connector can be bent before it should be replaced
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 8,948
    I did read that when the appliance is replaced you should replace the existing connector......from appliance install instructions I believe.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 11,974
    > @JUGHNE said:
    > I did read that when the appliance is replaced you should replace the existing connector......from appliance install instructions I believe.

    What about the 20 times I pull the stove out and put it back?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,242
    According to the code, and depending on who is doing the interpretation, the gas flex can not be re-used. My thinking is, if is a new appliance, or you sell it, then it needs a new connector. The local appliance guy will sell you a new connector each time he pulls your stove out.
    I have used csst, but prefer steel. We do not hardly ever have lighting here, and not within 50 miles of me, so I am not too worried about that. There are just times where trying to run steel is a real nightmare.
    My other question is this: What is the difference between csst, and an appliance connector, except for the label, and the fact the appliance connector already has the ends on it?
    Rick
  • Paul48
    Paul48 Member Posts: 4,470
    That's my point also.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 10,287
    Appliance connectors are supposed to be used one time only. as @JUGHNE said cant use CSST for an appliance connector.

    A few years back in MA we had to hard pipe everything, no appliance connectors. Not that way now