There it is!

Harvey Ramer

This is why your house smelled like gas for the last 20 years. Contrary to what you were told, it didn't come from the fireplace.

delta T

20 years!?? wow, this could have been a different story....

Harvey Ramer

I'm not sure it was exactly 20 years, but at any rate, it was that way since the house was built. The leak was in the basement and it was large enough that you could smell it in the 1st floor of the house.

Yes, the story could have been different.

MilanD

My neighbor had a small leak on her stove and immediately asked for help. It took me all 30 seconds locating it with some sniffing and then applying bubble water. Why do people allow this to go for 20 years is unbelievable!?!? Lucky for old windows, and less than tight building envelope, I suppose... and that it wasn't LP... wow...

Steamhead

CSST?

ChrisJ

Harvey Ramer said:

I'm not sure it was exactly 20 years, but at any rate, it was that way since the house was built. The leak was in the basement and it was large enough that you could smell it in the 1st floor of the house.



Yes, the story could have been different.

If you can smell it by the leak it's too much. Forget about in another location.

Jamie Hall

One very lucky puppy. May I suggest playing the lottery?

rick in Alaska

I want to know about the residue inside, along with what looks like a spider web.
Rick

Canucker

> @Jamie Hall said:
> One very lucky puppy. May I suggest playing the lottery?

I don't know @Jamie Hall , I think they used up all their luck already

Harvey Ramer

The tube was CSST. The tube was cut incorrectly as you can see by the deformations in the flare. About 3/4 of the flare is rolled in, and the rest is out.

It was LPG. The blackish discoloration, I believe shows the leak path. The connection nut had the same discoloration. I have no idea about the cobweb inside, other than it must have been there when the pipe was installed, and it must have been right at the end of the roll.

EBEBRATT-Ed

CSST, just not worth the risk. I am sure the installer had his CSST certificate card in his pocket when he did the install.

Workmanship still means something especially with gas and electrical.

Paul48

OK.......But the CSST was not the problem. The Tech not testing his connections, finding and fixing the leak, was the problem. Most people have cracked a black pipe fitting before. That could be just as deadly. I'm not for, or against CSST. How do you hook up a gas stove for someone?

JUGHNE

Use an appliance connector, not CSST.
It is not approved for repeated bending, IIRC.

ChrisJ

I still want to know how many times an appliance connector can be bent before it should be replaced

JUGHNE

I did read that when the appliance is replaced you should replace the existing connector......from appliance install instructions I believe.

ChrisJ

> @JUGHNE said:
> I did read that when the appliance is replaced you should replace the existing connector......from appliance install instructions I believe.

What about the 20 times I pull the stove out and put it back?

rick in Alaska

According to the code, and depending on who is doing the interpretation, the gas flex can not be re-used. My thinking is, if is a new appliance, or you sell it, then it needs a new connector. The local appliance guy will sell you a new connector each time he pulls your stove out.
I have used csst, but prefer steel. We do not hardly ever have lighting here, and not within 50 miles of me, so I am not too worried about that. There are just times where trying to run steel is a real nightmare.
My other question is this: What is the difference between csst, and an appliance connector, except for the label, and the fact the appliance connector already has the ends on it?
Rick

Paul48

That's my point also.

EBEBRATT-Ed

Appliance connectors are supposed to be used one time only. as @JUGHNE said cant use CSST for an appliance connector.

A few years back in MA we had to hard pipe everything, no appliance connectors. Not that way now