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Radiator valves and system identification

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mak62
mak62 Member Posts: 11
in Strictly Steam
Saw these on a unrelated service call





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  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,364
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    Broomell system, or it was... once upon a time... @Steamhead knows all about them; I don't, but as I recall they are discussed in the Lost Art, and they are a vapour system.

    That near boiler piping is... um... unfortunate.
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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    Jamie Hall said:


    That near boiler piping is... um... unfortunate.

    Someone certainly needs directed to the manual that's for sure. Yuck.
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  • mak62
    mak62 Member Posts: 11
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    Yes near boiler piping a mess, couldn't see or find any vents.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,866
    edited October 2016
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    Jamie nailed it.

    The Broomell system would have had a cast-iron "condensing radiator" hanging from the ceiling near the boiler. The dry returns routed air into one end of this, and the other end connected to the chimney. The chimney draft helped pull air from the system.

    I worked on a VECO system once that had a similar setup when it was installed. Some knucklehead had screwed up the piping so the air couldn't vent, and the system did not heat well. Once it was fixed, everything heated great.

    This system appears in chapter 15 of Dan's book "The Lost Art of Steam Heating".
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  • mak62
    mak62 Member Posts: 11
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    Thanks for all your help
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
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    Near boiler piping could use some work...bet the installer of the insulation was proud of that job too...lol
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