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Paul S_3
Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
i have to raise my new water line about 12 inches......do you guys recommend a gifford loop or a false water line....also do i need to raise the false water line the full 4 ft as per Dans book...or just enough to mimic the old water line? thanks Paul S
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    You can do either one, I've had no issues with mimicking the old water line
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    Paul S_3
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
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    thanks @EzzyT
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,295
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    Match the old water line as closely as possible -- neither raise it nor lower it. Either one could cause strange and wonderful problems.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    EzzyTPaul S_3
  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,424
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    @Hatterasguy, why would you get crucified for that? I mean who does that? :wink: I happen to agree with you. A Vaporstat can really change things.
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
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    im using a vaporstat....and i definitely have enough height.....one pipe steam
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,929
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    I concur. Those are safe guidelites to follow, but when you have problematic systems or conditions, ya got room to play. Mad Dog
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
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    because i dropped the original water line about 18 or so inches ....and theres a wet return that is now about 6 inches below the new water line....used to be about 2 feet below....
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,295
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    If -- and only if -- you are very careful to make sure that you know where all the wet returns are, and all the drips, and all the dry returns, and if -- and only if -- you make sure that your altered water line will not dry out anything that should be wet, or put water in anything that should be dry...

    then go for it. But as our esteemed leader has been heard to say -- get out of the boiler room and check the whole system!
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,683
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    But 6 inches below the water line is still well below the water line.

    No?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,295
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    ChrisJ said:

    But 6 inches below the water line is still well below the water line.

    No?

    Oh yeah -- that's fine. I have a place out at the end of one of the longer wet returns which is only about three inches down at static water level. Works fine.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
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    so @Jamie Hall do you recommend just piping a gifford loop instead of FWL? doesnt make sense to do all the extra piping if i dont have too.....wet returns are and will be under water but not by much about 6 in or so
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    Your good Paul you don't have to pipe a gilford loop
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,295
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    As @EzzyT says - your good to go as you are. Regular Hartford loop should work just fine.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England