False water line

Paul S_3

i have to raise my new water line about 12 inches......do you guys recommend a gifford loop or a false water line....also do i need to raise the false water line the full 4 ft as per Dans book...or just enough to mimic the old water line? thanks Paul S

EzzyT

You can do either one, I've had no issues with mimicking the old water line

Paul S_3

thanks @EzzyT

Jamie Hall

Match the old water line as closely as possible -- neither raise it nor lower it. Either one could cause strange and wonderful problems.

Danny Scully

@Hatterasguy, why would you get crucified for that? I mean who does that? I happen to agree with you. A Vaporstat can really change things.

Paul S_3

im using a vaporstat....and i definitely have enough height.....one pipe steam

Mad Dog_2

I concur. Those are safe guidelites to follow, but when you have problematic systems or conditions, ya got room to play. Mad Dog

Paul S_3

because i dropped the original water line about 18 or so inches ....and theres a wet return that is now about 6 inches below the new water line....used to be about 2 feet below....

Jamie Hall

If -- and only if -- you are very careful to make sure that you know where all the wet returns are, and all the drips, and all the dry returns, and if -- and only if -- you make sure that your altered water line will not dry out anything that should be wet, or put water in anything that should be dry...

then go for it. But as our esteemed leader has been heard to say -- get out of the boiler room and check the whole system!

ChrisJ

But 6 inches below the water line is still well below the water line.

No?

Jamie Hall

ChrisJ said:

But 6 inches below the water line is still well below the water line.

No?

Oh yeah -- that's fine. I have a place out at the end of one of the longer wet returns which is only about three inches down at static water level. Works fine.

Paul S_3

so @Jamie Hall do you recommend just piping a gifford loop instead of FWL? doesnt make sense to do all the extra piping if i dont have too.....wet returns are and will be under water but not by much about 6 in or so

EzzyT

Your good Paul you don't have to pipe a gilford loop

Jamie Hall

As @EzzyT says - your good to go as you are. Regular Hartford loop should work just fine.