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Question on thermostats

binkbink Posts: 87Member
Do thermostats have to be matched to the zone valves. My contractor changed the thermostat from a round Honeywell Mercury type to a new digital model 3000. With both thermostats old and new the thermostat cycled quite a lot and is turning on and off in short intervals like it is trying to get a very small temperature gain less than .5 degrees I estimate. Because the boiler is controlled by the thermostat I am getting these short boiler runs which has me concerned.
Is it possible to get a new thermostat with adjustment to increase the temp difference so it stays on longer and cycles less .Any advice is appreciated.

Comments

  • KC_JonesKC_Jones Posts: 4,281Member
    Look at the manual and see if there is a Cylces Per Hour (CPH) setting OR a setting for system type. You want this set for hot water heat or I THINK 2 CPH. Most of them come set from the factory for forced hot air which I think is 6 CPH meaning it will try and run the system 6 times per hour roughly. The installer (if he isn't an idiot) should have known this and set it for you to be honest.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10202744301871904.1073741828.1330391881&type=1&l=c34ad6ee78
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    Thanks KC on the inside of the thermostat there is only a two position setting (gas or oil) or (electric or heat pump) he set it to gas or oil. There is no setting for cycles per hour.
    The manual also does not discuss Cohen.
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    Manual does not discuss cph
  • KC_JonesKC_Jones Posts: 4,281Member
    What brand is it?
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10202744301871904.1073741828.1330391881&type=1&l=c34ad6ee78
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    Honeywell model 3000 pro. I just called the support line at Honeywell they said because it is a pro model the changes have to be made by the contractor. I saw that holding the two buttons up and down buttons simultaneously this takes you to a setting menu but without the instructions I cannot set it.
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Posts: 11,466Member
    There may be a cycles per hour setting for that thermostat, but as you have found out it's not intended for the homeowner and, if there is, it's not in the User's Manual. It does sound as though that that is your problem.

    From the descriptions I find of that thermostat, it very much looks as though it is meant for heat pumps and forced hot air systems of various kinds -- so it may not be usable.

    What was the matter with the old reliable round Honeywell, that you had to replace it?
    Br. Jamie, osb

    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.

    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    I thought he was replacing the old to prevent the short cycling but this did not fix it. I am trying to believe they are the professionals but am starting to question this.
    Thanks for the reply. I think I need a thermostat that the cph can be set to eliminate the short burner running.
  • Dave H_2Dave H_2 Posts: 354Member
    Bink,
    There are other upgrades than the thermostat to help your heating system become more efficient. Controlling the cycles per hour is a way, but it may greatly affect your comfort meaning that it can get cold in your home before the thermostat can even think of turning on the system because the number of cycles has already been reached.

    Consider Outdoor Reset control and/ or variable speed circulators that affect the boiler directly to add the economy of operation WITHOUT sacrificing comfort.

    Dave H.
    Dave H
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    Thanks Jamie for the link to the manual. Dave H thanks I agree I need to consider the cph effect on comfort.
  • binkbink Posts: 87Member
    KC the link to the manual you set shows how to check the cph mine is set at 5 so I will discuss with contractor Monday.
  • Aaron_in_MaineAaron_in_Maine Posts: 315Member
    Some digital tstats also have a temperature differential. Most are set to .5 degrees from the factory. I have Braeburn digital tstats that I changed the diff to 1 degree. My short cycling has been helped dramatically.
    Aaron Hamilton Heating
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    (207)229-7717
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