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Twittered steamer..,,,

kcopp
kcopp Member Posts: 3,988
A contractor posted this on his Twitter acct and supply house.com retweeted it.... Hmmm

Comments

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,329
    I suppose no one on that site bothered to check the manufacturer's piping diagram...................
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    kcopp
  • MarkS
    MarkS Member Posts: 75
    Bullheaded tees - the latest innovation in steam heating inefficiency. :/
    1890 near-vapor one pipe steam system | Operating pressure: 0.25 oz | 607 sf EDR
    Midco LNB-250 Modulating Gas Burner | EcoSteam ES-50 modulating controls | 70 to 300 MBH |
    3009 sf | 3 floors | 14 radiators | Utica SFE boiler | 4 mains, 135 ft | Gorton & B&J Big Mouth vents
    kcopp
  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,306
    God forbid they look at the manual before doing the piping,

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
    kcopp
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,081
    "New boilers don't need to be high efficiency" the caption they posted with the picture. At least they got that part right. lmao
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    kcopp
  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Ugh. Just...ugh.
  • Hey: Maybe it works? When the steam in the 2" pipe hits the tee, it'll slow down when the hallway opens up to 3", dropping its water wad into the neutralizer.

    But I know squat about steam.
    Often wrong, never in doubt.
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,032
    I wonder if in a decade or so, if those press fittings will leak??? time will tell.
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752

    There's your vertical header Joe.............ought to ask them how it works for them............... :(

    I have immedaite regrets about the vertical header idea.
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    sad that the installer thought it was good enough to tweet, and sad that whoever runs supplyhouse's twitter feed thought it was good enough to retweet.

    and even worse... Weil-McClain's response to the tweet:

    "What a great photo! Can you send us the original image and any other ones from your job sites? [email protected]"

    kcopp
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,329
    Must be the same W-M guy who said there was nothing wrong with using a copper header.....

    The boiler manual shows threaded pipe and specifies swing joints- go here:

    http://www.weil-mclain.com/en/assets/pdf/sgo-boiler-manual_1014.pdf
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    kcoppKC_Jones
  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
    edited July 2015
    Are those fittings even certified for steam? That's the first time I've seen them used.

    Do you think that header (if you want to call it that) will be holding water?
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,827
    Well,
    That's the last time I buy a WM product. Hopefully my EG series will last another 20 years so I'll need to see if their people have their heads removed by then or not I guess.

    Unbelievable.

    Thanks @kcopp I'm leaving for the dentist soon and am expecting some pain. I didn't need some before hand. :)


    Once again, I should be forced to hire guys like this because I'm not licensed? Yeah right.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    kcopp
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    RobG said:

    Are those fittings even certified for steam? That's the first time I've seen them used.

    Do you think that header (if you want to call it that) will be holding water?

    Looks like Viega states that they are rated for up to low pressure steam up to 15psi. I'm sure that "header" has plenty of water in it.

  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 3,988
    Looks like someone is trying to save face....
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 3,988
    Pix from supplyhouse Twitter
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,081
    Hmmm that looks familiar.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
    HatterasguyJim_R
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,518
    KC_Jones said:

    Hmmm that looks familiar.

    Nice, Nice, Nice!
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,032
    wonder if the installer is going to regret not being able to unscrew those fittings :/
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 3,988
    I have a feeling he may not go back there..... :o
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,081
    He will think he did a great job no matter what is said. He got recognition from a supply house and the manufacturer. Sad really sad.
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    And WM will probably feature him in a newsletter where other contractors will see what an "great" installation looks like.
    kcoppCanucker
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,329

    JStar said:

    And WM will probably feature him in a newsletter where other contractors will see what an "great" installation looks like.

    .............Race to the Bottom...........
    You can't fix stupid!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
    I think if the bar keeps getting lowered it's going to end up in China!