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MegaSteam short cycling on pressuretrol
donaldmc
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Burnham boiler installed In a 80 year old house 4 months ago. When it calls for heat in the am after a 3 degree night setback, the burner runs for about 20 - 30 minutes. The system fills with steam (about 10 cast iron radiators) the burner shuts off on the 2 lb on the pressuretrol and in 60 seconds the pressure drops and the burner runs for 3 minutes and the cycle repeats until the thermostat is satisfied. 513 sq steam oil burner, sized correctly, on a one pipe steam system. Dropped header, new main vents, insulated mains, everything seems ok except for this! Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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This is Normal
When the boiler runs an extended time and the radiators become fully heated and the pressure builds up, the pressuretrol shuts the boiler off until the pressure drops, which will occur quite quickly, as you have reported. This is completely normal. In most normal cycles, except when it is extremely cold, this will not occur.Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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Short-cycling boiler
You could always have your heating tech reduce the firing rate of the boiler, and see if that would more closely match the load.
Nirvana for us steam users is a system whose firing rate is so closely matched to the load, that no excess pressure will be developed, and the boiler will run for as long as the thermostat calls for heat, without any cutoff from the pressuretrol.--NBC0 -
Can the short syscle be changed
Is it possible there is a small steam leak making it cycle this short? It's 1 minute off, 3 minutes on. If the system can hold the pressure longer (Stop small leak ) wouldn't that lenghen the off cycle? The opposite is true, if I remove a steam vent off a radiator (large leak) it doesn't cycle because the steam can't build up to 2 lbs.0 -
It isn't cycling in one minute
because it's leaking, it's cycling in one minute because the steam is condensing. Which is what it is supposed to do.
The opposite certainly is true -- if it has a leak it won't build pressure. But you really truly don't want a leak, I wouldn't think.
The boiler will do that recovering from a setback; it's the nature of the beast. Read Dave's answer again.Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
Setbacks?
I am still doing research on whether it pays to setback a steam system. My inclination is that it doesn't. Takes so long to heat the cold soaked building that it uses the same energy that it would use maintaining a steady temperature [which is more comfortable]. As for the short cycling, have you tried running your water level higher? That may do the trick. Remember, the normal water line is wherever you make it.0
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