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I lost a job to a company that did this:

JohnNY
JohnNY Member Posts: 3,297
in THE MAIN WALL
This was an incorrect steam header repipe my partner/brother looked at and priced for the client.



The homeowner didn't like our price and called someone else who did the work in the picture for a much lower price. It still doesn't work right. Go figure.
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  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,297
    I have

    no idea why the pic is coming up sideways but you get the idea.
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  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Steam

    They converted the old header into a steam to hot water heat exchanger.
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,217
    No wonder

    they got the job.  Wrong is so much easier than right.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • Boiler wrestler
    Boiler wrestler Member Posts: 43
    Fantastic

    Thanks for the photo, it made my day. Truly a fine job if I ever saw one. At least they used pressure fittings not DWV.  The worst drop header ever.



    So, did you get to repipe it, or just marvel at it?
  • RJ_4
    RJ_4 Member Posts: 484
    piping

    Copper pipe allows no swing joints which equals extra stress on boiler sections ( if sectional ) which can cause premature boiler leaking

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    Get away from them ladd.

    i have seen your work , that is not You.

    it gets to you like it does because you know left from right right from wrong and it probably is making you sick thinking about it.

    remember what i used to say Expensive is expensive , buh cheap is not cheap.

    "Gui shi Gui, Piyan yi bu Piyan yi."
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,297
    Yeah.

    The called to say they had the boiler repiped, as we recommended last year, but that the system still isn't working right so therefore our assessment that the piping was the problem was clearly a mistake.



    We sent a guy to check it out and he sent that picture. We told him to run out of the house and tell them they need to call the company back that did that work and let them figure it out.



    UGH!
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  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
    Nice:

    Nice drop header installation.

    He could have saved some more money if he had used all DWV Copper drainage fittings. It would have looked even more professionally done. By a dubber.

    Simply stunning!



    Does it pound?
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,297
    Oh, it pounds, bro.

    It pounds, and it gurgles and rushes. It spits like a champ. Barely makes heat at all.



    Yep. All hail the low bidder!!
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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,387
    More proof

    that you can't fix stupid!
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  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    Wrong advice?

    I hope they will not sue you for providing a wrong diagnosis!

    Customers like those are best left alone.--NBC
  • MDNLansing
    MDNLansing Member Posts: 297
    You can fix this

    Suggest they install a couple of 12 horsepower circulation pumps and just make it a hot water system :)
  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
    Fixing Stupid:

    I was waiting for you to say that. I knew you would.

    Its in the DNA.
    Local1Plumber
  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
    Hopefully

    Hopefully they will come back and re-pipe it in CPVC as it should be :)
    Local1Plumber
  • Ron Jr._3
    Ron Jr._3 Member Posts: 605
    I hope you

    charged them accordingly for the 2 house calls ! 
  • TonyS
    TonyS Member Posts: 849
    Its not that bad

    They used two finger clamps on the bx line. Its those little extras that got them the job. LOL
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