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Outdoor Sensor

Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,215
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Can I use a Munchkin outdoor sensor to replace a Viessmann outdoor sensor?  Are they both 10K?
8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab

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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,555
    10k

    Not sure some use 12k. If you download the manuals for both, the info is probably there. I've got it on my laptop, but it's down at the moment.



    As I'm sure you know the 10k is at 77*, so if you could check it at that temp. Most Tekmar sensors are 10k.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,555
    Munchkin Sensor

    Just checked the Munchkin manual. The outdoor sensor is 12k and the indirect sensor is 10k.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    And just for the record

    there a number of different 10k curves.  Type 3 is probably the most common (most newer DDC systems) but there is a fair amount of Type 2 in use along with a few oddballs (especially on older systems.)  http://www.veris.com/docs/support/faq/RTD-Thermistor_Z202030-0N.pdf



    Honeywell MCBA (used in a LOT of mod/con boilers) uses 12k.  I have yet to locate a full table for those, but Dale has a spreadsheet that generates them from Steinhart–Hart parameters.
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,410
    sensors are not always interchangable

    even if they are the same resistance spec. I've tried this with a number of the Euro style solar controllers and some of the Euro boiler controls that all use PT1000 sensors.



    There are also postiive and negative coefficient sensors PTC and NTC, resistance changes on temperature rise, or temperature fall. So unless you know the spec of the thermistor it may or may not work, or work properly.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,215
    It's never

    straightforward is it?  Especially with electronics.  I guess it is what makes our job interesting, although it would be nice to have a "fits-all" sensor.



    Thanks for your help, guys.
    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
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