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Why shoud hot water boilers not be oversized?

Tom Andrews
Tom Andrews Member Posts: 5
Hello,



I was wanting some information on why a hot water boiler should not be oversized.  Specifically, I am interested in the efficiency issues.  Is there data available regarding fuel consumption and short cycling? 



Thanks.



Tom

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  • CMadatMe
    CMadatMe Member Posts: 3,086
    Common Sense

    Don't mean you don't have any but thing about it. If I need 60K btu's and I install a boiler that is 100K, which by the way is only needed on my design days, where does the other 40K go that I paid to burn? Those extra btus wasted get larger as the days get above the design temp.



    Short cycling also causes more maintenace and service issues. Bigger is not better.

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  • NRT_Rob
    NRT_Rob Member Posts: 1,013
    If you're interesting

    there are commercial white papers that reference 50% efficiency losses from short cycling. ORNL's domestic hot water testing from boilers shows 30% efficiency in the summer on cast iron and high 50's/low 60's even from mod/cons... that's primarily because of worst-case cycling losses (all residual heat is wasted).



    on top of that you have lifecycle costs to consider.
    Rob Brown
    Designer for Rockport Mechanical
    in beautiful Rockport Maine.
  • Tom Andrews
    Tom Andrews Member Posts: 5
    Where to get papers?

    Thanks - that's what I was interested in - actual published data.



    Do you know where I might access some of the commercial white papers?  Anyone else beside ORNL?  Appreciate the direction.  Thanks
  • NRT_Rob
    NRT_Rob Member Posts: 1,013
    here's one

    that you might like
    Rob Brown
    Designer for Rockport Mechanical
    in beautiful Rockport Maine.
  • Tom Andrews
    Tom Andrews Member Posts: 5
    Perfect

    That was perfect.  Thanks very much Rob



    Tom
  • NRT_Rob
    NRT_Rob Member Posts: 1,013
    sure

    fun read. it's for commercial boilers, so I would hesitate to translate it directly to residential scale boilers. but it establishes the fact that it matters, at least.



    I can't wait for datalogging tech to sink in price a bit more so fuel use vs heat delivered can be compared on more systems!!
    Rob Brown
    Designer for Rockport Mechanical
    in beautiful Rockport Maine.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,997
    Sized for the largest load ...

    Which in most residential is domestic hot water ...if the boiler is used for it as well as heat..

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