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LWCO NJ code

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JIMBO_2
JIMBO_2 Member Posts: 127
Does anyone know if a LWCO is required by code in NJ, specifically Monmouth County (Neptune) on a residential home's boiler?  If originally installed, can it be removed?  I have been given conflicting responses, and I am not sure.

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  • Robert O'Connor_12
    Robert O'Connor_12 Member Posts: 728
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    nj LWCO

    yes IRC M2002.5

    Robert O'Connor/NJ
  • JIMBO_2
    JIMBO_2 Member Posts: 127
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    Thanks Bob

    But now I am even more confused.  I spoke with Tom Pitcherello, of DCA, in Dept of Community affairs  from work this morning and he advised me that "it cannot be down-graded from what was there."  When I asked what the heck that meant, he said a contractor can only improve or upgrade the system, not make it less safe.  So I am totally confused at this point.  Can you perhaps make this a bit clearer for me?
  • icesailor
    icesailor Member Posts: 7,265
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    LWCO/Safety:

    Usually, it means this:

    If an appliance is installed and it has two safety devices on it when installed, you can not remove one of them. That would be a "down grade".

    If an appliance is installed with two safety devices and you install a third, this is a "upgrade".

    If a code enforcement authority rules that all commercial buildings "shall" have LWCO's installed on ALL hot water boilers, then the boilers "Shall" have LWCO's installed to get their annual license granted. If after inspection, one removed the device, it would have been "downgraded" and would then not be in compliance.

    Or something like that, as I understand it. 
  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,628
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    Robert could you

    put the actual code requiremment here for JIMBO so he will understand that the LWCO has to be in place and should not have been bypassed. Thanks Buddy!
  • jpf321
    jpf321 Member Posts: 1,568
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  • JIMBO_2
    JIMBO_2 Member Posts: 127
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    Thanks very much

    Thanks, reading it, it is as clear as the nose on my face.  And it makes perfect sense, too.  The serviceman who jumped it out had me convinced it was alright, but I was just not comfortable disabling a safety device that had to be there in order to pass final inspection when the boiler was installed. So it looks as though I will be installing a new LWCO this weekend.  The contractor and I are still fighting over the fact that his service manager went ahead and did this work without getting my approval (and/or making payment arrangements) first . . . so I am on my own at this point.
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