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steam boiler gravity return

I have a row house in Baltimore, built in 1926, with the original steam system but modified for a new boiler in about 1999. The condenstate return line comes from the front of the house and from the rear of the house, and drains the condensate from front and rear ( about 45 feet apart ) and ties together in a T at the rear of the boiler. The front condensate return slopes with a constant fall to the rear of the house. The slope is about 1/4 inch per foot from front to rear. The boiler sets about 12 feet from the rear of the house. There seems to be a buildup of sludge in the rear part of the return line that I cannot drain due to the slope to the rear.
Should that rear section of the condensate line slope to the boiler condensate return as well as the front line? I can change the slope by shortening a verticle portion of the return to give it slope to the boiler return T.

Thank you in advance.

Mike Greenway

Comments

  • steam boiler gravity return

    You might,, provided you don`t turn any other rads into a dry return.
    Can you get any pics?

    Dave
  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177
    SLOPE

    A WET RETURN IS A FLOODED SYSTEM. PITCH IS NOT CRITICAL.
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,648
    right

    slope in a wet return is not important, so long as all of it is below the boiler water line (which it has to be, to work properly). The fact that you can't drain that last 12 feet is not important -- unless, for some reason, you want to drain out the whole system. Can't think why you would, but... there's a reason for everything.

    Solution to that is to add a drain plug at the lowest point...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177
    pumping & sucking

    TO DRAIN use a pony pump or wet vac & suck it dry !
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    Mike, our company is in Baltimore

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    If those wet return lines are original, I'd just replace them. All the crud from the system settles in these lines and eventually blocks them. New lines would save you a lot of hassle down the road.

    I prefer to see wet return lines sloping toward the boiler since that makes them easier to keep clean, and easier to drain if needed. But as Bob and Jamie pointed out, they don't need this pitch for the system to work.

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