Labrador 1, Pit Bull 0

JimGPE_17

Shepherd

Had a shepherd mix try to take out my daughter a few years ago. He put a bunch of holes and tears in her legs. Why he never went for her throat while he had her on the ground is a matter best understood by researching the role of angels in the lives of those whome the Lord loves.

I always wondered what I would look like today had I been there when he took her down. I know I would have grabbed him, wrapped my arms around him, but what I would have done after that is a matter of conjecture. What do you do with your bare hands to a dog that is mad clean through?

Had to physically restrain the owner's neighbor from shooting the dog on-sight when he heard about it. Had to keep the mutt alive for the rabies test. The dog is feedin' the daisies now.

I own (and have high affection for) the world's nicest yellow Lab and I STILL wonder why we keep animals in the house.

Jim_65

Pride and Joy

I have to join in and share my pride and joy.

We live out in farm country and we walk every night. One night we had two stray dogs come out of the dark and were acting pretty agressive as they approached us. Once they both went chest to chests with her and realized her size they decided to bolt in the same direction that they came from. Lucky for us and them!

EJW

TONY

What breed of dog is that? EJW

Jon_10

English Springer Spaniel

Ours is named Oliver, 65 lbs. of pure energy. What a beast, loves everyone. I bought an training collar for him when he was a year old to calm him down. SWMBO forbid me to use it on him. One day the lady next door was walking over and Oliver jumped up on her and knocked her down. That day SWMBO hung that collar on him. He no longer runs in the road, jumps up on people and his behavior is totally changed. He has only been shocked appox. 4 times total. He is one of the smartest dogs we have ever owned. In the morning when he goes out, he makes about 20 laps around the house flat out. He is leaned over about 15-20 degrees and is a scream when he slids out every once in a while. He is friendly to a fault for I'm afraid he will jump in anyone's vehicle, for he loves to ride in anything. We have never had a dog as friendly as this one, does not have a mean bone in his body.

Unknown

Yep , we still can't get out of working

either on a ladder or in a cubbyhole . Someday EVERY original Levitt home boiler will be replaced , and I can retire or drop dead , not sure which'll feel better .

You're right about their jaw strength . I play tug o' war with this guy and there ain't no winnin' against him . He's got some mighty shoes to fill after our black lab passed on , 125 lbs. of the best dog ever . But this new guy is doing the inevitable and winning us over .

[Deleted User]

Pardon MY ignorance...

But whassa sump?

And whilst were at it, any one know what noodlin' is??

ME

Unknown

A sump is

a big ol' hole where all the storm drains connect to . There's quite a few of them around here . Officially off limits to walk in , but I gotta let the dog run free sometimes . Take a look out your window and feel very content . This is the sole vista we have , the sump is about 25 feet down and the local soccer club built a field across about 1/3 of it . Land is SCARCE . How's it going out in your beautiful land ?

Tom_35

Noodlin answer

Mark,

Noodlin is fishing with your bare hands. Takes great big family jewels to do this. The person goes underwater and sticks their hands inside hollow logs, back in among rocks, etc and starts feeling for the fish. In our area, the main target is Catfish, and these can easily get 45-55 lbs. The man will have one of his hands in the fish's mouth (and the hand usually ends up bloody) and the other hand trying to hold the fish.

This is not for the faint of heart! This type of fishing is usually past on through family lines and there is not a line of newbies trying to learn the art. These fishermen usually have a mouthful of tobacco as well and then use the tobacco to place on the bites on their hands and arms.

Tom Atchley

ScottMP

I've seen this done on TV

Either BIG cahoones or NO Brains

I can't tell which but it aint for me.

Scott

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Tony_23

Great Pyrenees

Livestock guardian dogs. Generally people friendly, but very intuitive. She knows who's in the house and who doesn't belong there normally. She's only in recently because we aren't ready for another litter. Dad's out with the sheep.

ScottMP

Jon

We have our first Springer and she is a doll.

She is almost a year old and everyone loves her, she's great with the kids. We hav'nt seen the real jumping yet but ALOT of chewing.

Scott

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[Deleted User]

Gotcha...

I'm suprised the developers haven't figured out a way yet to convert the sumps to useable land:-)

They seem to have figured out how to build houses on slopes around here that are too steep to stand up on!

Life is beautiful around here. I thought about you yesterday whilst driving towards the hills. THere were major snow clouds boiling over the mountains, and I thought about sending you a picture to show you the ugly side of these beautiful mountains.

BTW, noodlin' is the art of laying on the banks of a river where the bank has been undercut by the river, extending your arm slowly and carefully into the river, and groping around for cat fish. When you find one sleeping, you grab it by the gills and yank it from the water. I saw the hand of a man who was noodling, and didn't realize it but his hand was IN the mouth of the fish. Took the hide right off of his hand. Needless to say, he went fishless that night...

ME

Mad Dog_2

I don't think we were supposed to drink beer..............

party and listen to Black Sabbath's Master of Reality in there either.....hee hee. My Village has several sumps. The main one is 13 acres - wooded. We LIVED in there from age 12-17. We would also spend hours in the tunnels that connected to the other sumps across town playing Vietnam Tunnel Rat. WE had BB Gun wars in the sump and it was always the best place to meet for a fight because no adults were going to break it up, We also built a bicycle motocross tack too. We loved that place. From time to time the cops would raid us at night, but we'd here them comin' from a mile away. THis sump always held a small pool of water about the size of a small round swim pool, We stocked it with fish. When havey rains would come, there was an old refrigerator we would paddle around in. Seperating the two halves was a huge concrete berm with sluice valves. I was always fascinated by them and always tried to get them to move. After a few summers and some transmission fliud, I got them to moive up and downn. my firends couldn't believe it. The other sump was always full and we used to fish in there. Everyone use to say: Your crazy thats poluuted...theres no fish in there." I used to pull 20 pound carp and channel cats out of it, In the spring I would spear spawning carp from shore among the styrofoam cups and garbage. Once a year we would clean the whole place up. Ron I think yiou and i have the same fondness for the sumps of the isle of long. WE used to run the dogs there too. Mad Dog

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Don Robertson

If anyone is looking for a lab or lab mix

check out www.labs4rescue.com This is a great orginization.
I also recommend anyone who takes in a rescue dog to sign up for obedience training at the local dog trainer. It cost me $129 for my lab Max and it was well worth it. He is a great well mannered dog.

Brian (Tankless)

Ain't for me niether,

I have the Cojone's for ca-noodlin' NOT Noodlin'

This kind of fishing, as Tom described, is passed on from Father to Son, and generally in more rural area's where money is in short supply. $2.0/lb for dressed-out catfish is just too much to pass up.

It's still done in many parts of LA. where fiercely independent Cajun's still live without electricity, phone'e, running water & still live on boats 20 miles from anywhere, in the marshes & REAL swamps.

Snapping turtles, Alligators, and a host of other "nasties" are waiting underwater for inexperienced hands. Many of the "residents" of Big Lake, LA. where I used to live, have missing digits and unbelievable scars.

Not all the folk "out there" fit the stereotype we think of as marshfolk. I have a freind who still lives there and makes a living even though Rita completely destroyed EVERYTHING. He's 6'5", 240lbs, long hair,lonnnnng beard, hands like shovel's, but has an IQ of 150 ish. He spends about 75% of his life outdoors, and only comes in for a beer, to see his girlfreind and sell his "stuff".

I rather miss Big Lake. Real people, no BS, just get on with it. These people, and folk like them all over the country, have been "git'n her done" long before the Cable guy thought he coined the phrase.

Well, I gotta go an "Get it done" all this jaw'n ain't "getting the bairn a new frock" as they's say in Scotland.

Later guys, and leave the big fish for the noodler's

Brian.

Dave Yates (PAH)

However - kanoodlin...

is a nuther story altogether(G). Can be chust as dangerous though!

Speaking of dogs & attacks, here's one in our morning paper today: http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_3356976

Our third floor tenant, now 96, was attacked by three pit bulls while walking to her volunteer job at her church several years ago. Fortunately for her, a guy driving by stopped and beat the dogs off with a golf club. She still works there, but won't walk to work any longer. Took her more than a year to heal.

I've had a number of scary as hell close encounters with pit bulls. Might be owner inflicted training, but that's one breed I'd be happy to see eradicated.

Had a pair of Irish Wolfhounds in our old neighborhood that would be let roam free & they would double-team other dogs & cats. One would start the fight & the other would wait for an opportune moment to grab the distracted victim from behind. Aside from the concern for pets, there were lots of small children in the neighborhood. We went to the police who said their hands were tied, so we went to the Magistrate who asked me if I had a gun. Shoot them next time, was his reply! But, he also gave the cops permission to shoot both dogs on sight if they weren't leashed & served the owners with that same warning. The folks living there decided to move. Before they did, I caught both dogs in my back yard as we were returning home around midnight. We met in the narrow walkway between our garage and the fence. The first one got by before I realized what was going on, but the second one got a good beating before he managed to escape from my grip. With a young child that often played in our yard, I'd have done him in had my grip been a tad better.

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Jon_10

English Springer Spaniel chewing

Scott, a training collar is the way to go with these dogs. Even tho she just a year old, she is plenty smart. To correct Oliver's various transgressions into incorrect behavior, a single signal tone and if he doesn't stop, a shock is administed. He has never repeated his bad deed after one of those. He is a good dog and we have only shocked him for misbehaving about 4 times. They are very intelligent and learn and retain better than any other dog we have had. First year we couldn't keep him out of the road and chasing anything that traveled down our sleepy street. He always had to be on a leash or rope and he would ruin them in very short order by snapping them at a dead run. After the collar was put on him and he was corrected for running in the road, he has never gone on the road surface in a year and a 1/2. Walking him on a leash was a terror, he would pull your arms out of the sockets, 2nd. time correction was adminstered. Now he walks with you without a leash and he normally stays right at your side. If he starts to wander off all is needed now is a signal tone and he runs back to my side. In a crowd he will wander off and try to get everyone to pet him, but again just a tone signal on his collar will have him running back to your side. Your dog's chewing partly is caused by new teeth but has probably become a habit. A training collar will correct it expecially with the intelligence those springers have. English Springer spaniels are a very active dogs and the training collar is a very good tool in controlling thier hyper behavior. Ours has a 1000 yd. range and 15 levels of stimulation, well worth the $160 invested.

Unknown

Oh yeah

Developers have tried to build housing right on top of the sumps . Our town supervisor nixed that idea . Even the people in charge count these areas as parkland of sorts .

Hey , sorry to hear about your run in with the black lab . I almost thought all killer instincts were bred out of em , but you never know . It was impossible to get my ol' black angry , or even bark . At one time I had a friend just walk in the house , the first time , and the dog ran up to him , jumped up and licked his face . Great , great dogs , but not good for home protection .

Unknown

Takes a courageous kid

to walk down those tunnels . We tried once and ran back after maybe 30 feet inside . Hey , you ever eat the fish you caught in there ? I have some of the same memories of the sump growning up . First place we all smoked , the go to place to have private fights . Never had the ingenuity to make a raft out of a fridge !!! Back then there was no need to clean the place up , it was pristine . Nowadays ? Forget about it . It's worse than a junkyard . The poor dog just cut his foot wide open on a broken beer bottle . Too bad these kids don't get the idea that someone will close the place down for good if they keep up the polluting and fires .

But .... me and you do have the same fondness for sumps . As rural as Nassau County gets .

Mad Dog_2

Courageous and stupid often go hand in hand

two sides of the same coin. We had those miner flashlights from SOF Mag We learned from the other dopes who 5 years earlier went in with matches........The Sumps were OUR domain. Very fond memories...Nope never ate 'em.,,,but thet were chunky. Yes, glass everywhere.....Mad Dog

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Mad Dog_2

Done it.........................but never liked it

Catfish aint got any real teeth to speak of...but the bristles will make you bleed. We aint got blueheads up No'th like you'll does...maybe half the size. However, still soemthin' freaky...'bout probin' holes underwtaer...Jason done there ya' know. Mad Dog

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Mad Dog_2

Steel mesh mitts...for the faint of heart

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Mad Dog_2

How do you think the big channel cat or blue cat feels

when you stick your arm down his throat? He's usually backe din to his hole. Gotta go deeper, grab his guts and yank!!!!!Mad Dog

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Darin Cook_2

All the dogs that bit me or wanted too were

pitbulls, pit mix, rottweiler, or german sheppard. When I was a kid I had a german sheppard latch onto my side and do the side to side rip action. Luckily it was winter though and I had my heavy winter coat on. The owner came out and yelled at us for being there. We were walking down the town road!!! In todays world he would have had a lawsuit thrown against him. It did not matter though the dog was run over and killed shortly after because he was out on the road again. Had another time in Albany installing a hotwater tank on Washington ave. I saw where the next door fenced in yard had a hole dug underneath it. I did not pay it no mind. I was tying in the water lines on the hw tank and heard a ferocious growl behind me and here were two pitbulls in the doorway of the basement bracing for the charge. They had come through the dug out hole! I had my instant on Goss torch in my hands and that blue loud turbo flame made them leave. Apparently they are afraid of flame. Lucky for me. I would have been severely mauled or killed by two of them. Those dogs especially pit bulls are just a dangerous dog. With so many towns putting bans or restrictions on them, it would appear that alot of other people think so too.

singh

Sorry

So sorry about your dog.
I hope the lab recovers.
You recently got the lab right? Sounds like it was territorial.

Hope your new year gets better, peace.

Mad Dog_2

A horrorific scene - no doubt

But your Boy made a manlt decision. God Bless Guys. Mad Dog

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Scott Gregg

Good Shot!

Good Shot Eric.

Mad Dog...Your right a cat won't stop that 300# crack head but my full house conversion .45 will. It will also stop just about anything else in this hemisphere and a lot of stuff from the other one. :-)

Mans best freind was invented by John M. Browning in 1908 and improved and produced by Samuel Colt in 1911 and then perfected by my gunsmith.

Brian (Tankless)

Thank you Singh & Pat.

That's the worst thing I've ever had to do, because I love dogs.

When the Pit was around people, he was the best you could ask for; gentle as could be. My daughter adored him, and he'd roll over & let her scratch him on the belly like a puppy. But this thing developed, and they just had to settle things in their own way.

I'm really sad, because it wasn't the dog's fault. It was the way he was bred. He was at the top of his breed, designed by humans to be mean, and HE paid for it. He died because he was both good and bad at the same time. We are to blame for that.

We shouldn't manipulate genes.

Lord, help me sleep tonight. I feel so bad killing one of your creatures.

Brian.

Bob W._3

Sorry about the loss. Too bad you didn't have something handy to separate them, like hot water or pepper spray. Maybe even those would not have worked. I got my hands chewed up pretty good years ago separating two fighting dogs. Been there.

Al Corelli

Can't imagine having to do that.

You guys made the right choice.

Sorry for your loss.