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FYI Burnham Mega Steam

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Steamhead (in transit)
Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
in THE MAIN WALL
at the R.E. Michel branch we usually use and they say it'll be at the Holiday Inn in Timonium. Gordon and I will see you and Greg there!

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  • Jeremy_5
    Jeremy_5 Member Posts: 10


    We recently installed a new Burnham mega Steam, very happy with the performance, it was nice to dial in a steam boiler at just over 86%!!! Unfortunatly I did find a glitch the hard way. As part of the new install I replaced the old merc. with a digital round. 3 weeks later recieved a call from H.O. stateing stat was blank.(Sunday of the playoff games) Coaxed my electritian to take the call but when he arived it was fine? I pulled up the wiring diagrams on line and fiqured out the safety circuit kills the power to the transformer. Asked sparky to call the boiler, and sure enough when the pressuretrol cuts out SO DOES THE TRANSFORMER AND NEW DIGITAL STAT. I never noticed this on install because I was in the boiler room checking the cycles. Just wanted to give everyone a HEADS-UP BEFORE THE FREAKED OUT H.O. I spoke to Burnham, hopefully they make the changes.
    Also wanted to say thanks to everyone, I've been hanging around here for a few years and learned alot. One of my New Years resolutions was to start posting.(almost Feb.) I hope this can save someone some trouble.
    JMH
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    If you start and stop the boiler

    thru a standard circulator relay such as a RA89 or R845, with the relay contacts switching the thermostat terminals on the boiler, your thermostat will remain live when the Mega-Steam shuts down on pressure.

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    Jeremy

    First of all, thanks for installing a Burnham Megasteam boiler and we're confident it will provide your customer with many, many years of efficient operation. I also want to thank you for bringing to light the power stealing thermostat issue. Over the past several years we have pretty much incorporated isolation relays into the circuitry of all of our steam boilers such as the Independence Gas, V-8 Oil and MST "Megasteam" Oil boilers to isolate the thermostat from the inner circuitry of the boiler. On the oil-fired boilers this was done to be able to send a 120 volt signal to the Low Water Cutoff to activate it's internal timer for the built-in "Foam Check" feature it is equipped with.

    I will be meeting later this week with our Engineering Dept. and we will be discussing what you have been so kind to point out that the transformer on the isolation relay is deenergized when the limit pressure is reached. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention. Communication in this business is very important and more often than not things like this are not brought up when they occur.

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
  • Will_5
    Will_5 Member Posts: 85
    Curious

    What did you see for stack temps?
  • Jeremy_5
    Jeremy_5 Member Posts: 10
    Glenn

    thanks for following up on this. Thats a nice packaged boiler, seems like a shame to have to add a relay just to power a stat.
    Cunner, without pulling the file I think the gross stack temp was 330.
  • Will_5
    Will_5 Member Posts: 85
    Cool

    ...... literally. That's some impressive efficiency. Is it quiet?
  • Jeremy_5
    Jeremy_5 Member Posts: 10
    Quiet

    Ya it was fairly quiet, burner cover helps.
    Corktown
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    Glenn , 2 questions

    Any chance of an in house presentation like the one they gave us for the V8 and the MPO ? Our sales department wants to get up to speed on these boilers so we can start offering them .

    And can the Megasteam be used as a water boiler ? The internal coil option can come in handy for some homes that don't have room for a tank .

    Thanks Glenn .
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    Ron

    I will initiate the request for inhouse training on the MST "Megasteam" for you. There has been some thought to using the MST as a hot water boiler but I'm not entirely sure if that will happen any time soon. This is due to the different construction present inside the boiler in the steam dome area as compared to the MPO water boiler. I'll check into it whle I'm in Lancaster this week.

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
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    Jeremy

    I spoke to Engineering about this yesterday and they have already worked out a somewhat simple solution to the transformer being interrupted. As I stated, all of our steam boilers have been this way for some time now but this thermostat issue has just come up. I would imagine it has something to do with the Mercury ban for use in the thermostats and the popularity of digital readouts now.

    This wiring modification should happen shortly as soon as harnesses can be made and the I&O manuals modified and reprinted. Thanks again for bringing this to light.



    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
  • Jeremy_5
    Jeremy_5 Member Posts: 10
    Glenn

    Thats great news, its nice when a Manf. resolves a problem instead of putting it on the back burner!
    Jeremy
  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395
    We had our \"in house\" for the Mega Steam

    Nyah, Nyah. We had our "in house months ago.
    Learned all about Chlorides too.

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  • Will_5
    Will_5 Member Posts: 85
    Hey Glen

    Planning any Megasteam seminars anywhere around NY/NJ?

    C
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    We certainly can!

    What Burnham Distributor(s) do you do business with and at what location?

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    Baltimore too!

    R.E. Michel handles Burnham, maybe we could get their Glen Burnie training center.

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    April 4th

    Frank,

    We are due in Baltimore with some training on this and other products on April 4th as part of the "Burnham Spring Training" Tour. Keep an eye out for more on this on our web site and in all of the Trade Publications.

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
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    Actually......



    You will be seeing Ron Beck and Greg there. I probably will not be there, but you never know! We have 14 cities in the Mid-Atlantic Region scheduled for the "Spring Training Tour" during April, May and June and later on this summer this will hit another 15 cities in NY, NJ, CT, VT, HH, ME and MA. I'll more than likely be involved with the second swing into New England.

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
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