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Mad Dog_2
Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,274
in THE MAIN WALL
you havent had any problems? Is it cost? Mad Dog

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  • CSK
    CSK Member Posts: 2
    Lochinvar Knight Boiler

    I'm Looking to pick up a new line. I've been using the Munchkin and I've had great luck with them. I'm now looking into the Knight Boiler. Any thoughts?
  • Nron_13
    Nron_13 Member Posts: 164
    knight

    looks very simular to the munchkin at the heat exchanger. it maybe made by the same french company that makes the munchkin and trinity . they seem to be doing fine the oldest trintiy I have is 3 years old and the ignighter has been replaced as well as the flue outlet and gasket
  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Knight

    A pain to service. Watch how you install them. Keep in mind that someone (maybe you) will have to service it.
  • Brian
    Brian Member Posts: 285
    Alternatives

    In the past I used Trinitys then I switched to the Buderus GB 142.I have 10 in so far and have nothing but good things to say about them.Try one and you'll never go back.

    Good Luck
    Dobber
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    Ken D, why a pain to service?

    I have a Knight in my place and have had the complete burner and fan assembly off and out in less than 10 minutes. Front plate is very easy to remove also.

    The top and front sheet metal pop off with spring clips, no tools needed to gain access. Control module is very easy to get to from the top and out harms way.

    The best wiring terminal strip of any of the condensors, or any boiler for that matter.

    How many have you installed or had to service?

    hot rod

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  • Rookie
    Rookie Member Posts: 175
    Knights in white satin

    I will be installing one soon, I have been through the Munchkin trials and look forward to a new condensing boiler, if Hot Rod gives it a thumbs up the that is more than good enough for me.
    Jim
  • Kevin O. Pulver
    Kevin O. Pulver Member Posts: 380
    Well Mad Dog

    one reason to change would be that the Knight is just plain COOl LOOKING! Now that is not by any means the best reason to choose a boiler. But it is ONE reason. And from what I've seen and read, they've got the other points covered as well. I admittedly haven't had very many years of service experience with boilers, but I do know that in America, styling sells big. Modulation and condensing capabilities are a big sell for me.
    I just installed a Knight 399 and a 210. I really like them so far. Kevin
  • Greg Swob
    Greg Swob Member Posts: 167
    Knight

    We haven't installed one yet, but are looking seriously at them. The heat exchanger is much larger than Trinity or Munchkin, meaning less head loss through it so a smaller primary circulator can be used. They appear to have put components in accessible locations for easy service. And I'll admit they are cool looking!
  • Greg Gibbs
    Greg Gibbs Member Posts: 75
    Good \"Knight\" Ken, you need some sleep.

    Ken, could you please explain to us in detail why the boiler would be a pain to service? I can not see why you would say that! ??? -Greg
  • Brian (Tankless)
    Brian (Tankless) Member Posts: 340
    You're right, Kevin

    Looks & styling are only ONE reason for purchasing, but when you put a bunch of boilers side-by-side (as in a portfolio of previous installs), and bearing in mind that 90 some percent of the checks are signed by the lady of the house, and all other things being equal, the "coolest" looking one is gonna win almost every time, fact.

    And it IS a cool looking boiler.

    That's a real nice Knight/Calleffi/cuervo install, HotRod. Even if we didn't know it was yours, we still would :) How does it feel to be "Dead Man" but still be above ground:)

    God, how I wish I was in the Radiant business. Is 56 too late to change career directions, seriously?

    I know there are other industrial electricians who post here, and are just as hydronically smitten as I am.

    Well, gotta go untangle another HO's self-inflicted wiring birdsnest. She has an entire 70ft trailer with 125A panel fed from a 60A breaker, via a 10/2/W Ground romex wire. I don't make this stuff up, folks.

    Merry Christmas from Brian in Swampland.
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,231
    about 5 6 years ago....

    i was considering doing what i could to be a Locknivar sales outlet.i had to think the new building was saying when we make This investment we are going to make some changes for the better around Here:)
  • Russell_2
    Russell_2 Member Posts: 6
    Switch to condensing boiler? Which one?

    Now that I have the discomfort of receiving sizable monthly bills for natural gas, I figure it's time to try doing something about it. I began by calling Weil-McLain to see about an update to my 20-year-old gas boiler. They told me that a swap might provide an efficiency boost of about 5 percent, hardly enough to be worthwhile. Then I heard from a friend who said the answer would be a condensing boiler. When I searched on same, most of the hits were from the U.K.; almost none in the U.S. My house is about 3,300 sq. ft. and at the moment costs about $1 a foot to heat annually (we're in CT). I'd like to know more about condensing boilers to consider, approximately what kind of cost I might be facing, and who to contact to get the work done. All suggestions greatly appreciated. If the answer to this can be found in an earlier thread, kindly direct me to same. Thanks.
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    Nothing new about having styling affect choice.

    I have a lot of old advertising literature from the 50s and 60s. Particularly in the 50s when boilers and furnaces were rapidly moving away from the cast iron sectional monsters into steel cabinets, "styling" was promoted just as much (if not more than) efficiency.

  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,908
    GADZOOKS MAN!


    Does this lady have to turn off the lights when she makes toast??!?!?!?

    Merry Christmas to you Brian!

    Mark H

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    Notice what the forced air industry has done

    to those old "ugly" square boxes :) Didn't take long for all the companies to follow the style leader in that industry.

    Kudos to Burnham for the Revolution's jacketing, by the way.

    Another pet peeve is manufactures that apply their company stickers crooked. What's up with that!? It's not that hard to put a decal on straight. Tells a lot about the company pride.

    Manufactures... put the stickers in the box for us to apply if you can't get them on straight, level & plumb :)

    Of course looking good is one thing. Working as intended while looking great is, or should be, the ultimate goal.

    hot rod

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  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Hot Rod

    Many. Unless I have the wrong model. If this type has the finned heat exchanger, there is not an easy way to clean it. Especially when there was an irresistable urge to install it with the back up against the wall where the draft diverter is. To change the subject, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Very Happy New Year to you and yours and all.
  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    greg

    Maybe I have the wrong model, but cleaning the heat exchanger on Lochinvars when the back is against the wall as usually the case, causes me conniptions. Have a Very Merry and a Very Happy.
  • Brian (Tankless)
    Brian (Tankless) Member Posts: 340
    Oh, Mark, did I

    mention that she told me the lights blink sometimes? And that the stove, dryer & water heater are all electric!!!!!

    The A.C. is a self-contained, package type unit fed from outside.....thank God.

    She's the ex-wife of a brother of a freind of mine, Phew, and a school teacher. Anyhoo, I did some very minor work for her a year ago, and made a point of very heavily covering my arse on the invoice. And pointed out EVERYTHING that needed attention, had her read & sign it. I didn't want to attend a funeral and be sued the next day for causing the funeral.

    What will tomorrow bring?

    Take care, and Merry Christmas to you & yours, Mark.
  • Ragu
    Ragu Member Posts: 138
    Whew! Good One!

    1 To Tankless: Yes, you can alter your destiny at 56. I had no idea that you were an industrial electrician! Around here we call the other guys "Romex Electricians". No respect there. No quality, no troubleshooting skills; in and out, slam bam. If you have a handle on controls then you can do it.

    2 To Hot Rod: I respect the fact that you actually install and test every brand under the sun. That is what we all need to read about.

    3 To Russell: Call Bill Nye from the "Fine A Pro" list. He is in Connecticut and he is very smart. Modulating/Condensing (Mod/Con) gas boilers look to me to be the state of the art in hydronic heating technology as we speak.
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