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Steamhead
Steamhead Member Posts: 16,843
I know Mr. Marsh is cheering, along with many other Dead Men.

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Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    We did this job last winter

    but I just got around to downloading the pics - Thanks Mr Wire Nut. This was a great job! Alot of History behind this house: The home was a U.S. Army officer's quarters at the now decommisioned Camp Upton, Yaphank ,Long Island, New York. Camp Upton was the training ground for WWI soldiers before they shipped out to Europe. Sometime after The War to End All Wars, the building was put on a barge and sailed to the historic town of Sea Cliff, Long Island New York. We got called in after many contractors had looked at it and either didn't know what the were looking at, ran the other way, or didn't leave the homeowner with a feeling that new boiler would be piped correctly. To make the job even more challenging, the boiler was in the middle of the house in an 8 foot deep pit. The dimensions of the pit were roughly 7 feet X 8 feet - not a lot of room to work! To make matters worse, the door to the boiler room was only 18"s wide We Installed a Burnham light commercial knock down boiler (5006B)and lowered the sections down in to the pit and assembled there. First, we repiped the whole boiler room , putting the pipe on kindorf. We also gave the ho a floor drain which would make blowing down the boiler a cinch. He was thrilled because he was very tired of hauling hot buckets of water up the rickety ladder. After doing an edr count of the system radiation, I found that the boiler was quite a bit undersized! (how an undersized boiler can still heat a building - the boiler never shut off) We rebuilt all traps (TUNSTALL)(26) of about 5 different brands) added one or two where needed and added 6 Gorton #2s. Long story short, this year's gas bill was about 40% lower! Radiators that hadn't gotten hot in years were blazing again. This was probably the most interesting, rewarding and financially-gratifying steam job we ever did. We got the job even though our price was almost 50% higher than any other company....because we were the only ones who the HO had confidence in. Mad Dog
  • BillW@honeywell
    BillW@honeywell Member Posts: 1,099
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    Nice work, Dawg!

    Did you have Ron Jr. stop by to help? It's usually him we see looking out from tight spots! Great save of a rare system.
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    No, but I did think of him a few times

    Atleast now, the boiler is turned in a way that we can service it. We could have went with the In Series but handling the large individual sections was alot easier than dropping the two boiler blocks down and getting them in place. We really enjoyed doing this job. Mad Dog

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  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,112
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    steam guru

    Nice work MD this guy got every penny worth .You really neated it up also hats off on the drop header and getting rid of that bull head tee ,like the equilizer to the dry return also those new return piping is a vast improvement .I would gather with replacing those traps the system truely work 1000 x better .Hats off to you and again great work peace clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Jim Bennett
    Jim Bennett Member Posts: 607
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    You rose to the challenge!

    Nice pipe work! I like that 'round the corner drop header! Why the pit? Is the rest of the basement a crawl?

    Jim

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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
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    nice job, MD

    HEY, MD could be doctor of steam also, huh maddog..great save..nicely done..
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Tombig_2
    Tombig_2 Member Posts: 231
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    Nice Save

    Great Job, M.D. Keep it up! I just reworked a sixteen unit condo conversion and the one pipe steam salvage saved the developer a bunch of dollars. All condos still got a cooling only duct system. The new owners will get a collective fuel bill significantly lower than individually fired forced air units. Win-Win? I think so. Developers out there....Are you listening???
  • Boiler Guy
    Boiler Guy Member Posts: 585
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    Very nice tight work there MD

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    I guess when they re-plac ed the house

    on its new foundation, it was easier to drop a pit for the A and B dimensions. The house is sorta built in to a hill, so the ground floor serves as a "basement" Mad Dog

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    Thanks Gerry

    you ain't too shabby of a steam man either. It was the most interesting one I've ever done. Mad Dog

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    Way to go Tom

    That's the way we will keep The Steam alive...one save at a time. MD

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    I took the time to plan it out well

    First, I took about 2 days to remove the old returns recievers and checks and then repiped everything, keeping the returns "tucked" tight against the walls. I left several flush stations that would be accessible once the boiler was in place. We spent the 3rd day dropping the sections in place and assembling - not so easy working with the tightening rods in such a short space but we sorta swung the boiler block catee-corner. 4th and fifth days were spent dressing the boiler and building the header. It has two lwcos manual and probe. I was so glad we went with the 5006 Burnham. After that job I was always opt for less but larger sections. Assembly takes some time, but is much better on everyone's bodies. Mad Dog

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  • Bruce M.
    Bruce M. Member Posts: 143
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    Camp Upton

    Hey Mad Dog, you probably know that Camp Upton was used extensively in World War II. After the war it became Brookhaven National Lab (BNL). I just can't see the Army selling this house after WWI when the base was still active. Do you have a picture of the house?
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
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    I'll take a pic next time I'm up there

    Yes I did know all that but you seem to know alot about Upton...how about its "brother" base Camp Mills in Garden City? What can you tell me about that? I'm relying on the homeowner's info that he got from the local historical society. From the looks of it, the installation with the traps and receivers and that....looked like it was installed in the twenties or thirties not the late 40s or fifties, but you know how stories can change when they pass through a few hands........Only the Dead Men know for sure.! Thanks for the interest bruce. Mad Dog

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  • Bruce M.
    Bruce M. Member Posts: 143
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    Camp Mills

    Yes I am familiar with Camp Mills. My father was stationed at Mitchel Field when I was in elementary school. Camp Mills became a part of Mitchel Field. I remember seeing a memorial marker which I will check and see if it is still there. Here is a quick link:
    http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/forts/fortsM_P/millsCamp.htm

    Here is another interesting picture. The white coal towers in the picture are now gone. I lived in the fifth house from the left above the coal towers. They are still there. They were heated by hand-fired coal with a gravity circulation system and cast iron radiators. They were converted to oil and have now been converted to gas and a circulator was added. They still have the original radiators and piping.
    http://www.hempsteadplains.com/cmmfccc3.htm
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