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Nick Dearing
Nick Dearing Member Posts: 30
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I live in Northeast Ohio where are electric rates have been much lower than our natural gas or oil rates for years on a per therm basis. A company out of California wants to build a hydrogen power plant here. The cost of the plant I'm sure would be very high but after it was paid for the hydrogen is very easy to get out of the air, cheap. The most clean-burning fuel there is. I wish someone would design a hydrogen boiler, only by-product is water.

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  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
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    Everyone, You MUST read these

    If you're an HVAC man, Start selling the highest efficiency equipment. Only. Your customers will thank you for it. Think condensing boilers, solar, ground source heat pumps, alternative fuel boilers, etc.

    If you are a homeowner, you would be prudent and wise to listen to what your HVAC guy is telling you.

    Click on the links. Read 'em and weep. Too many experts are begining to talk this way to ignore it anymore.

    http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/05/28/business/doc42977d953a340608197686.txt
    http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/05/28/business/doc42977d2623b6a067891356.txt
    http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/05/28/business/doc42977df4c08a8351487143.txt
  • Mitch_4
    Mitch_4 Member Posts: 955
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    interesting read

    Most of my territory if nat gas, very little oil..but thanks for the post..it was an interesting read. I always promote high efficiency equipment anyway, because I believe it is best for all concerned. Me, my business, my customer, and the planet.

  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
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    More to it

    The implications of scarce or high priced fuel, and that's a generic term for all fuels, go far beyond whether a customer burns gaseous or liquid fuel.

    What I'm driving at is that we as installers should be taking many things into consideration as we design heating/cooling systems for the next 30 years. Think about offering a customer a boiler/furnace that can burn both types, liquid or gaseous by changing the burner. This eliminates a lot of equipment on the market today that by design can only burn one type or the other. Think about designing a system that can be integrated with alternative energy sources like solar and/or bio fuels. Think about systems that can alternate between traditional fuels and wood, corn or wood pellets for example.

    I see hydronic based heat sources as being much more flexible as far as being able to integrate alternative energy sources than traditional F/A equipment.

    What kind of system would you design today if all of the traditional fuels sold for $5.00 per 100,000 btu and the supply for one type or the other was intermittent?

    One of the scientists in the articles stated that anything we do after things go down the toilet is too late. The subject of fuel price increases and shortages is debateable as to when, but not if anymore.
  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
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    You know why they want to build it there?

    Because natural gas is cheap in the Midwest due to underground cavities that gas can be stored in. Minimal pipeline and transportation costs. What do you think they are going to extract the hydrogen from? Natural gas probably. What's that going to do to natural gas rates? Nowhere but up.
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