Downsizing nozzle on wtgo-4 and riello f5

@HVACNUT @EdTheHeaterMan

I don't agree. If the job was installed by the corporation the corporation if it exists take the hit.

That is the reason people form corporations, so they are less likely to be held personally libel. Any insurance is in the corporation's name.

Going after someone personally is call "Piercing the corporate veil" and is only allowed if someone did something knowingly wrong with negligence.

Since the job ran well 8 years no negligence was involved. Who knows who worked on it in the meantime? The homeowner? another company? And did who ever worked on it use a combustion analyzer.

No. This is wrong wrong wrong and the wrong decision. its ****

You could do a perfect install and anything could happen in the intervening 8 years. The boiler could have started to soot before this guy comes in and changes a nozzle and he doesn't test it and it causes a huge issue and he is completely off the hook???? The last guy that works on it is the one with the issue

No way

I get annoyed when people say an oil fired boiler cannot be down fired. Of course it can. It has to be combustion tested of course.

Stack temp above 300 is important. 100 degrees above boiler water temp is the old rule of thumb has been around for years. Checking the flue passages after down firing at 3-6 months is the best clue regardless of what the combustion test shows is important.

Not just changing the nozzle but changing the head on a Beckett if needed. Higher oil pressure with a smaller nozzle is the way to go.

Increased run time with smaller input and less starts and stops is easier on the equipment and promotes better combustion. Burners make more soot on start up and shut downs which is helped by clean cut pumps and solenoid valves and longer run times. Fewer longer cycles means less firing cycles to reach steady state combustion.

JMHO.

At the time, I was just about the best there was in Cape May County when it came to oil heat. My competitors would call me to resolve oil heat problems all the time. The fact that a 6-section boiler was cheaper than the correct-size boiler seemed logical, since I knew how to down-fire it and get reasonable combustion numbers, and there was no condensation of flue gases, the CO was less than 20ppm, the CO2 was over 11.5% and the stack temperature was below 400° in the 8 years that I serviced that boiler. Only after the new company that purchased my business has a technician put in a 2GPH nozzle sis the soot problem happen. If I had only removed the ratiung plate when I installed the boiler that 2.00 nozzle firing rate would not have been an option.

It was no different than taking an Ideal Red Top, a Weil-McLain snowman, or even an American Radiator from the 1930s that was designed to fire coal, and putting a 0.75 GPH nozzle in the oil burner. Those boilers might run with a 700° stack temperature when they were coal-fired because they were often over-fired by mistake or laziness, because I didn't want to tend the fire every 2 hours.

So taking a boiler that was rated at 2.00 GPH and firing it at 1.00 GPH, and using a sidewall power vent rated for a firing rate of 1.5 GPH maximum, seemed OK to me.

And I did own it @HVACNUT when it came down to it, because the judge didn't understand that the veil of a corporation meant that Ed Young, the person who used to work for a corporation called E. F. Young Company, Inc., was separate from the corporation. The judge said, "Well, I don't care about that. It's not (customer's name)'s fault this happened, and your name is on the paperwork."

It was just the political good ol' boys sticking it to the outsider.

I probably could have appealed the decision and gotten a better attorney who was on my side instead of the insurance company's side, but my wife wanted it to go away, so I paid the bill, and that was the end of it. I was just giving @jesmed1 my reason for NOT calling his oil company and tell them to go lower. It can bite you in the end.

I looked into renting a combustion analyzer. I found Global Test Supply with rent a Testo 320 analyzer for a day for a modest cost. Much less costly than having a technician come in with his analyzer while you swap nozzles and make adjustments to improve efficiency. Global Test Supply has an online rental web site.