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Where did you find those?
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That's a Whittier!
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I get these all the time. They're the perfect shape for trapping mom's Sunday tomato sauce. In Italian, they're called "radiatori."
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Johnny. You remember my mom, Colleen. She would make An Alfredo with Prosciutto and peas 🫛 with the radiattore....Oh Madonne!!!!! Mad Dog
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Buonissimo!! So many good memories connected to food and family.
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some grocery stores around here carry de cecco but they don't have that shape. Even Nino Salvaggio in Troy doesn't seem to have it.
i was watching some show on the food channel about something like the top 10 restaurants of old new york. there was an itallian grocery that was essentially running a restaurant out of a counter in the back, had sauces and pasta and meatballs that all looked worth finding when in nyc. i googled it and found out it had closed a while ago and the show was old.
my family is german, we shouldn't try to make tomato sauce. if you want potato dumplings or kanadle talk to me.
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I grew up in an italian household and married into one. Never, ever heard anybody call it gravy until about 15-20 years ago. I'll go to my grave calling it sauce. My mom was from the old west end in Boston and my mother-in-law came from italy thru Ellis island when she was 20. She talks to me in english and half way thru the conversation starts talking in italian without knowing it.
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72% Do you have it mapped out to 23/32?
As a boy, I heard Farah Fawcett (va-voom!) say that she was 1/3 Iranian. 1/3? That must have been a funny-looking family tree! :)
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Be sure to check the waterline in the pot and once there is some steam, listen for water hammer. Oh, I almost forgot, make sure the pot is properly vented, but if you decide to use a lid, make sure the condensate goes back in the pot.
Thank you for sharing. I will look for these the next time I go to the grocery store.
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Born in South Ozone Park and grew up in How'beach Queens. Sauce becomes Gravy only when you add, meat…Beef Bracciole or pork on the bone. It turns more of a dark red as you would imagine. Mad Dog
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Sapori d'Ischia in Queens. I was there for many dinners in the grocery aisles.
While I'm at it, we were a gravy house. Not sauce. No idea why. It had to be my mother who is 3rd generation Italian-American. My father's first language was Italian.Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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I didn’t realize this was a serious conversation. I just thought that someone from @Nick_Castrads was trying to sell their wares . This is obviously much more important stuff.
I’m from an Irish family, and my wife is from an Irish family, and we always called that “sauce.” We also served it in a gravy boat with a special ladle that was used to make a little crater in the mashed potatoes for the gravy. That ladle was NOT used for sauce!
We also have a pizza joint called Stoner's Pizza that promotes “Legalize Marinara”. And they have a potato chip section near the counter called "Don't Forget Munchies". I wonder why?
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is this pasta covered in @DanHolohan's book EDR?
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After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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i think you're going to need a quart of paint, a scale, and some tweezers.
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Zircon-encrusted tweezers!
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That's funny, and they operate almost exclusively in states where the "marinara" is not legal lol
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I've always heard that calling it gravy was a Sicilian thing, whether that's true or not, no idea
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I've always heard that it was a Neapolitan thing. Like @EdTheHeaterMan , I grew up Irish in Philly, but my best friend was Italian. They said "noodles and gravy." Their families were from Naples, and claimed it was called that "back home."
Here was an interesting discussion and hypothesis:
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As a non-Italian I grew up pouring a meat enriched sauce (gravy) over a starch (mash taters) so I can understand why Italians who grew up pouring a meat enriched sauce (Ragù) over a starch (pasta) might also call their meat enriched sauces gravy, and how that might carry over to similar non-meat sauces. Either way, whether you are calling it a sauce or a gravy, if it gets put on pasta I'll have some please 😊
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I asked ChatGPT to get a definitive answer and this is what it came up with:
That depends entirely on which Italian family you ask — and how brave you are feeling at Sunday dinner.
Technically speaking, Marinara Sauce is considered a tomato sauce. In standard culinary terms, “marinara” is absolutely called a sauce.
However, in many Italian-American families — especially in parts of Philadelphia, New York City, and New Jersey — the word “gravy” is traditionally used for long-cooked tomato meat sauces, particularly when:
- meatballs, sausage, braciole, or pork are simmered in it,
- it cooks for hours on Sunday,
- and somebody’s grandmother threatens bodily harm if you call it “sauce.”
A lot of families actually distinguish the two:
- Sauce = quick tomato sauce, marinara, pizza sauce
- Gravy = slow-cooked meat sauce
But other families call everything sauce and think “gravy” sounds ridiculous.
So culturally:
- Italians from Italy usually say “sauce.”
- Italian-Americans from certain regions often proudly say “gravy.”
- Irish families apparently use a gravy boat and eliminate a dedicated "mashed-potato crater ladle" to settle the matter officially.
(I think my ChatGPT is developing a sense of humor)
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I always call that pasta, Radiator pasta. 😂I love cooking with it.
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Bronze cut pasta ends up with a more porous surface compared to Teflon cut, even more holding power for the “coatings”
A true modern day plumber would want lead free bronze, of course.
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I'm in what is called a "mixed marriage" I guess.
My wife cringes, and sometimes full-on hollers at me when I call it gravy (which is partly why I do it, of course). Her father is the original Italian playboy, having immigrated from Puglia at 16 years old and still can't speak English very well, wears gold chains under his unbuttoned shirts, and still tries to pick up ladies at his 82 years of age. My mother in law is a beautiful woman from Sicily and is just impossible, which is a whole 'nother story. But they were very much a food-centric, cooking-exquisite-meals-daily household. They are right about the saucy-gravy debate but my mom (pictured) and I will never admit that to them.This is a nice nostalgic thread we have going here.
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