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Potential Flange Switch

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Hi everyone,

We are looking to potentially switch out the flange in the dedicated space between the metal sections as shown. Please note that the flanges are slightly different on the base. It looks like they should fit but hoping to hear group input on any concerns given the tight space involved.

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,638

    the flanges fit the same. you'll need new gaskets and bolts to install the new circulator

  • itowngirl87
    itowngirl87 Member Posts: 5

    Thank you. We have new gaskets. Do you think the old bolts won't fit?

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 26,626

    are you trying to address the old leaky gaskets? Or swap pump brands?

    Remove the bolts, slide the pump out, clean the surfaces and replace the new gaskets or o-rings.

    You may be able to reuse at least those upper bolts, perhaps the lower ones if you spray them with WD40

    That pump typically seals with a square o-ring , in a groove in the pump body. but with some flanges you need to use a flat gasket to seal to the flange. When you remove the pump you will see what was used.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,638

    you can measure to see if they are long enough but since they are all crusty i'd replace them so getting them apart in another 30 years isn't a problem for the next person.

    hmm…i thought i hit send

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 26,626

    I believe those are isolation flanges, the metal flange slips over an edge on the ball valve, A plastic snap ring locks it together. So it is a flange specific to that valve assembly, I doubt you would find that flange.

    That is also the reason it requires the flat gasket, which comes in the box with the valve.

    Various brands of these one piece flange/ valves like this are available.

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,638

    I think they were concerned that the casting on the new circulator is different than on the old circulator which isn't a concern as long as the bolts are long enough.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 26,626

    Yep, the question is unanswered.

    Is this a pump swap, or just a gasket/ leak repair?

    Flange replacement may not be an option.

    Grundfos and Wilos run about 1/8" wider flange to flange than Taco, but the piping usually allows enough movement to accommodate that 1/8" difference.

    Replacement bolts are 7/16 X 2" length. Chrome or zinc plated are best. Available at most any hardware of home "box" store.

    I'm pretty sure you would need flat gaskets with those flanges.

    I would not attempt any repair or removal without new gaskets on hand.

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,638

    @itowngirl87 do you want to replace the flanges that are connected to the pipe or are you just trying to replace the circulator?