Hydronics resources for a newbie?
Hey guys I've been an HVAC service technician for about 9 years now and have started at a new company a few months ago.. my previous company I worked on some boilers but my hand was held most of the time and alot of the times I never had to do the repairs on return visits etc.. now with my new company they have barely any technicians and I'm going to sooooo many boilers it's been quite the crash course.. I've serviced systems for a while but just regular maintenance, some pump replacements, cleanings on some older Weil McLain CGi5pins, NTI Trinity's, Viessman etc.. I've never really understood much of the water side but last winter I spent some time reading
Pumping away, classic hydronics and a few other Dan Holohan books which have been amazing resources so far.. I've retained a decent amount of the knowledge but I'm looking at really understanding and diving deep into being proficient diagnosing and servicing new types of boilers as my new company has a whole bunch of Viessmans etc..
My new company said they are willing to pay for some hydronics courses for me so I'm really looking forward to doing that but just wondering what are some of the other can't live without boiler/hydronic resources? They are all low pressure systems which a max relief pressure of 30psig..
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And....all of Dan Holohan's Books...All of Ray Wolfarth's Books. I'm excited for you and I like your Gung Ho attitude....Mad Dog
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i think most of the manufacturers of mod cons have online training but really it is more about understanding microprocessor control systems than mod cons vs conventional boilers
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Here is a resource I have also used. @DanHolohan Wrote it years ago. All of his writings are superb.
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The hydronic end is easier to learn than the controls. At least it was for an old geezer like me that didn't turn on a computer until I was about 40.
Circuit boards and processors used to scare me.
But it's all about checking for power
Checking the inputs
checking the outputs
But you have to know how the thing is supposed to work. This is where some manufacturers fall flat on their face.
Some write excellent manuals and some write crap.
For instance CARRIER, not a favorite. We used to install a lot of their 'Aquasnap" commercial chillers.
We used one on a process job and it worked fine. Set for 40 degrees everything is great ….until the next day.
You walk by the chiller and its just sitting there, water temp is 70 degrees. Chilled water pump running.
I had one of my guys working on it and I went over to help out. We basically tore it apart look for issues and checking sensors and voltages etc. We both read the manual cover to cover.
Finally I read one section over and over and it went something like this " The processor senses the temperature of the supply and return water and decides how many compressors to sequence."
That was it. No more explanation than that.
So what was happening was the chiller is not set up to maintain water temp, and you can do nothing to change that. It senses the supply and return temp and decides when to run. Since the process machines were off the supply and return were the same temp……no load so the chiller sees no load and will not start even though its 30 degrees above set point.
Once it senses a load it will start and then maintain 40 deg.. All done through the processor and you cant change it or wire around it.
After that we changed the name of those chillers to "sleepy snap" . Everyone laughed at me when I told them the chillers went to sleep.
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if you understand what it has to do, you can make some pretty good guesses about what the microcontroller has to be doing even if the manufacturer won't tell you.
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Sight , sound, and smell are good troubleshooting assets.
Taste also, used in moderation, if you are checking for glycols🤓Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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I agree but in the case of chillers you start them up and they maintain water temp 24/7 unless you wire it otherwise.
This chiller only operates on differential water temp for a start signal. Any changes to any extermnal wiring will not start it. Its baked in to the microprocessor.
Two of us read the manual and the only clue was the 1 sentence above.
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if the person that programmed the microcontroller isn't acting rationally you can't really guess what they did…
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