Single pipe system except for one radiator + cycling problem
We have 18 radiators in our three story plus basement building. 17 are single pipe system, only this one is two pipe. It's on the first floor. The feed side comes from above, down into the right side of the radiator, and the return goes out the left side bottom, down into the basement return. This radiator also had an air vent on the left side.
When the control valve was open, it ran fine. Too hot for the room, actually. But when the control valve was off, the air vent spits water that seems to be pushed back up from further down the return line. (We also removed a cap on the elbow at the beginning of the return and it spit water there, too. Like surges of water.)
I know two pipe systems generally don't have vents on radiators, but that some do. I know they usually have vents somewhere else in the steam lines. I suspect someone added the air vent to this radiator before my time, either because they didnt realize the difference, or for better flow. We have since taken off the vent and plugged the radiator, but now the steam flow is a bit weaker/less consistent.
All of this is in conjunction with a short cycling problem nobody can solve. So far we tried a new make up air machine, new thermostat, skimming, flue check
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the radiator is easy. it is one pipe but the supply is from above so it needed a separate return. the return should go to a wet return below the water line by itself. the vent lets the air out the same way it does on all your other emitters.
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the short cycling you need to use a meter to figure out which control is opening. it may be that the boiler is oversized and it is cycling on pressure.
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"Too hot for the room" smaller vent needed.
Where is the radiators return pipe tied in to the wet return system ? Hopefully way below the boiler's water line. Does the Boiler have an equalizer pipe ?
National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
One Pipe System0
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