Adding C-wire to my system

Good afternoon everybody I need some help with adding c wire to my installation I’m using right now old thermostat and I want to use nest smart thermostat but there’s no c wire there’s one empty wire going to thermostat but it’s not connected to hvac, can I run power to thermostat from com24V? It’s look like there’s wire connected to that terminal I’m guessing it’s outside unit because there’s a two wires white and red, red is connected to com24V on mainboard, can I add another wire to that com24V and connect it directly to thermostat „C” terminal? First picture is mainboard second, thermostat I want to connect last one is how it’s connected now, is my only option is external power adapter if yes I should connect one wire to c and another to R? Thanks for any help.
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You have a common wire (COM 24v "C") blue wire on your terminal strip.
But I question if the transformer in the board is large enough to power a Nest.
Is that a transformer on the right above the circuit board?
If not you may have to use a separate transformer and relay. Nest's need a fair amount of power to charge their battery.
@EdTheHeaterman will comment
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I don’t know if it’s change anything but it’s a smaller version of nest
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See @EBEBRATT-Ed 's comment above — and I suspect @EdTheHeaterMan will chime in. But no, just because it's smaller the new Nest still uses a lot of power.
Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
they saying it’s need around 0.2A
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At the thermostat you have G, R, Y, and W connected using the appropriate colors: Green Red Yellow and White. The furnace has no yellow wire connected. but that can still operate an air conditioner adequately. It may actually work better if you connect the Y on the furnace circuit board, but maybe it is ok without that connection. At the furnace there is a blue wire connected to the C terminal. I suspect that is from the outdoor condenser. This assumes that you have air conditioning attached to that furnace.
The wire at the furnace does not look contiguous (the same wire from end to end) the Green at the thermostat is a much darker shade of Green than the Green at the furnace. Is there a chance that the furnace wire is connected to the outdoor unit and the thermostat wire at a location outside the furnace?
Is there an unused wire from the thermostat to the "out of furnace" junction area? If yes, then it is easy to add the C wire to the thermostat and to add the Y to the furnace also.
I am suggesting that you connect the Y on the furnace to the Y from the thermostat because in many cases, the Y on the furnace will activate onboard software logic to let the furnace know that the G is being activated for Cooling and not just for Fan On operation. This feature may enable some fan time delay, or operate a different fan speed, or both, when there is a call for cooling. Those features are not needed if there is no call for cooling and you just want to switch the furnace fan from Fan Auto to Fan On at the thermostat.
As far as the comment about the NEST using too much power for that furnace transformer, that is usually not an issue. That transformer is designed to be used to operate a wide range of cooling system relays, and also humidifiers for heating system usage. I have rarely had a problem connecting the NEST to a furnace transformer.
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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Sometimes it is difficult for some folks to follow wiring diagrams so I thought I would post the before and after diagram. Of course, I don't have a crystal ball so the BEFORE is a guess at how the wires are connected, So @domolek will need to verify the "Before" diagram.
I have seen the “Before” wiring several times in my short 45 years of doing this stuff. As long as there is an extra unused wire in the line from the thermostat to the junction area, then it should be easy to do the "After" diagram. I don't know what color the extra wire might be on the line from the thermostat to the junction area, so I selected light blue to indicate that wire. But you can use whatever color the extra wire is, because electric is colorblind.
Hope this makes this idea as clear as can be
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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Or just install a Taco SR501 to give you all the terminal landings you need with a separate transformer.
With all the good explanations you’re getting here, there’s a chance that you may accidentally fry the board.8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour
Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab0
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