Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.
If our community has helped you, please consider making a contribution to support this website. Thanks!

Replace or seal radiator plug?

Options
CT_Minh
CT_Minh Member Posts: 13
in Strictly Steam
So noticed that one of my steam radiators has hole or gash in what I think is a plug?  We have a “spare” radiator and when I looked at the same spot, it too has a hole there.  Is this intentional or should I seal or replace it?  

Comments

  • Waher
    Waher Member Posts: 368
    1. Does steam or water come out of it?

    2. Your air vent is in the wrong location for a steam radiator.
    kcopp
  • bburd
    bburd Member Posts: 1,256
    edited February 2024
    That is not a hole or gash but an unusual air vent built into the radiator.  It says "air valve" right on it. If it does not leak steam you can ignore it.

    The separate, round air vent is indeed installed in the wrong place for a steam radiator, and may have been put in because the built-in vent stopped working. You will get more heat out of the radiator if you move that down to the tapping that you should find about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom on the end section. 
    —
    Bburd
    Intplm.
  • CT_Minh
    CT_Minh Member Posts: 13
    Huh, the hole sometimes makes gurgling sounds during a cycle but nothing comes out.  The maid-o-mist vent seems to be working as expected though.  Thank you for the tip on moving it, learn more about these every year!
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,362
    @CT_Minh, that looks like an IN-AIRID air vent. According to Dan Holohan, this vent "showed up in the 1920s. They called it IN-AIRID and it was the invention of Leslie M. Stadelhofer of Newark, New Jersey. The American Radiator Company bought the rights and sold them. These vents were for one-pipe steam and they fit inside the radiator.

    "This was brilliant because it put the vent in a place where people couldn’t damage it, but there was more to it than just that. IN-AIRID had a spring-loaded seat that sealed the last radiator section from the next-to-last section. When steam enters the radiator from the bottom, it rises to the top of the radiator because it’s lighter than air. Once at the top, the steam wants to move horizontally across the top of the radiator and toward the vent. Without that spring-loaded seat, the steam would close the vent before most of the radiator was hot. But with it, the steam has to take a detour downward through that next-to-the-last section, and then upward into the final section. This ensured that the one-pipe radiator would heat all the way across.

    "The vent hole in the IN-AIRID is the dot in the i in the word Air. If that dot gets plugged, the radiator won’t heat because the air can’t get out, so we need to beware of painters. I’ve fixed many heating problems with a paperclip. All I had to do was poke the paint out of the hole. I loved seeing the look on the building owner’s face when I did that."

    You can find the patent here:
    https://heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/in-air-rid-vent-patent/

    And more info here:
    https://heatinghelp.com/news-and-media/dead-men-tales/the-hidden-air-vent/

    President
    HeatingHelp.com

    BobCIntplm.Big Ed_4
  • Ballen
    Ballen Member Posts: 1

    @Erin Holohan Haskell Thanks for the info. I too have an IN-AIRID in one of my single pipe steam system radiators, pls see pic. However, I also have a standard air valve half way down the radiator. Do I need both? If not, and I suspect the IN-AIRID is malfunctioning (it is 100 years old after all!), does it "simply" unscrew and can be replaced with a standard plug? Do you happen to know the size plug? I am a beginner and really appreciate any advice.

    20260103_151009.jpg
    HeatingHelp.com
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,792

    the added vent is in the wrong place but i suppose the in air rad will make it work properly in the same way the in air rad does for itself. It blocks the connection between the second to last and last tube so the steam has to fill to the bottom of the second to last tube before it gets to either vent.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,792

    if it isn't leaking steam leaving the old vent in place won't hurt anything.

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,871

    That round air vent might have been installed by a well intentioned novice, not understanding the system. You may find that your radiators will work well with out them.

Categories