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Noisy New Burner

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Mort
Mort Member Posts: 1
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I just replaced my ancient hydronic system with a Riello burner/Burnam boiler system. The new system is much noisier than the old (vintage 1950's) system.  Is this typical and if so what can I do about it ?

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  • Jean-David Beyer
    Jean-David Beyer Member Posts: 2,666
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    What kind of noise?

    Is it noise in the hydraulic part of the system; e.g., noise of air in the pipes, squeeks in the circulator(s)?



    Or is it noise in the burner part of the system; e.g., noisy blower in the burner, noise in the sound of the flame?



    Ore something else entirely?
  • billtwocase
    billtwocase Member Posts: 2,385
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    noise

    Very noisy combination. You would have been better off with an EK System 2000. Always very noticeable when you upgrade from an old 1725 burner on an old boiler to units of today. I starting using the EK's when I was replacing my old rotary units out  years ago. They were almost as quiet, and efficient.
  • Unknown
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    Yes, as bill says,,,

    if it was an old (not flame retention burner), it was likely 1725RPM they were very quiet,,the newer style (flame retention) are much higher blower speed(as JD states),,, some manufacturers offer an insulated cover as an option,, perhaps look into that.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,785
    edited April 2010
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    In the Old Days

    Post WW2 , the Big One according to Archie Bunker .The country was in the middle of a great economic era . The Gas lines where not in place at that time , The oil companies just burn off the gas on the drilling sites .. and they where pushing oil burning products ...



    There was a large building boom ... People did not use words like economical and efficiency ... They still remembered the quiet burning coal days . What help sell the oil units was quiet running units ...



    The two oil embargoes of the 70's made us afraid of running out of fuel .. People started to lower their thermostats and looked for other means to save ... Now economical burners started to sell .. The retention head evolved from the Shell Head designed by Sell oil company ... The fire on the burner was pulled closer to the head , Pump pressures and fan speeds started to rise .for better atomization of the oil droplets and hotter and cleaner oil fires ... With the newer burners you will hear a bit more combustion and air noise ... It is a constant steady noise which is easier to get use to where a rumble or alternating noise is more annoying ....



    I would recommend calling your service company and ask them to try to tone it down .. We have found that some of recommendations for nozzles sizes on boilers don't seem to work well on all field installations . I believe they want a 80* H . I would return back to using a Riello standard 60* W nozzle . And bring the GPH down a notch if it can ...
    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,832
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    Which Burnham

    do you have- the V-8 or MPO series? Based on the noise issue i would guess it's a V-8......
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  • Chris M_2
    Chris M_2 Member Posts: 67
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    Noise Cover?

    Does your burner have a noise cover?  I have a Burnham Megasteam with a Beckett burner. The burner has a big square cover that goes over the whole assembly, and man is there a difference in the noise between when the cover is on and when it's off.  I thought the cover was only meant to keep dust out of the motor, but apparently, it's a sound dampening measure too.
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