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V8toilet
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Can someone tell me if working with 3" black pipe is allot harder than 2" black pipe. Is there a big cost difference? What tools are needed to be able to thread black pipe? I know I need schedule 40.
The reason I'm asking is because Garabedian plumbing used 2" pipe for my riser and header in spite of the fact that my boiler manual says to use 2-1/2" minimum. I pointed this out to them and they won't fix it so it looks like I have to either fix it myself or find a contractor to do it which leads me to another question. How much should it cost to have a contractor re-pipe the riser and header with 3" pipe (see picture)? I want 3" pipe to get the exit velocity of the steam way down so I get good dry steam. I did a quick calculation and 3" pipe puts the exit velocity down to 13 ft sec, 2-1/2" is about 18 ft sec and 2" is over 25 ft sec.
The boiler (Weil McLain EG 40) has a 3" tapping. I have 276 sq ft of radiation and the boiler has a net rating of 325 sq ft. The water level in the gauge glass surges all the way up the glass when it's steaming toward the riser and I'm afraid that if the water level tilts too much the last section in the back will be overly exposed to the flame and crack. The water level tilts while the boiler is steaming because the steam exiting that 2 riser is exiting too quickly and causing the water level to tilt toward it. I also have spotty uneven heat compared to before but no hammering or spitting vents.
Thanks
The reason I'm asking is because Garabedian plumbing used 2" pipe for my riser and header in spite of the fact that my boiler manual says to use 2-1/2" minimum. I pointed this out to them and they won't fix it so it looks like I have to either fix it myself or find a contractor to do it which leads me to another question. How much should it cost to have a contractor re-pipe the riser and header with 3" pipe (see picture)? I want 3" pipe to get the exit velocity of the steam way down so I get good dry steam. I did a quick calculation and 3" pipe puts the exit velocity down to 13 ft sec, 2-1/2" is about 18 ft sec and 2" is over 25 ft sec.
The boiler (Weil McLain EG 40) has a 3" tapping. I have 276 sq ft of radiation and the boiler has a net rating of 325 sq ft. The water level in the gauge glass surges all the way up the glass when it's steaming toward the riser and I'm afraid that if the water level tilts too much the last section in the back will be overly exposed to the flame and crack. The water level tilts while the boiler is steaming because the steam exiting that 2 riser is exiting too quickly and causing the water level to tilt toward it. I also have spotty uneven heat compared to before but no hammering or spitting vents.
Thanks
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The average pipe machine that most people have will only do 2" pipe or smaller. A lot of people in the business don't have the tools to do 2 1/2"-4" pipe which nowadays is usually the largest size that is threaded. In the old days the DEAD MEN went a lot larger maybe to 10-12 inch.
The labor to do 2 1/2 and up is more do to the larger tools etc. ITS just more work. And the pipe and fittings are more expensive.
Your absolutly right to want the right size piping on your boiler. Its unlikley it will ever work properly without being changed.
Where are you located? Maybe someone can help you out.
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I'm located in Worcester Massachusetts.0 -
V8toilet.................
I`m thinking I saw these pics on another post not long ago. It is a "pretty pipe fitting job", but if it`s not to manufacturers specs, it won`t work the way it should! EBEBRATT`s right, alot guys only have threading eq. for up to 2", nice try on his part, but if it doesn`t work properly, It`ll have to be changed.0
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