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Best gas power burner: EZ-Gas, Powerflame, etc?

Steve Garson_2
Steve Garson_2 Member Posts: 712
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Any pros have opinions/experience with gas power burners? I need 350,000BTU, 235,000BTU and 120,000BTU output and want a dependable and efficient burner with easily obtained replacement parts.

These will be for new Smith boilers. Pricing the difference for a one boiler solution versus a two-boiler solution.

Thanks!
Steve from Denver, CO

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  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,653


    Maybe Weisshaupt?
  • Charlie Masone
    Charlie Masone Member Posts: 66


    How about Beckett CG
  • J Sacco_2
    J Sacco_2 Member Posts: 1
    Gas burners

    Check out te Riello 40 gas burners
  • Steve Garson_2
    Steve Garson_2 Member Posts: 712
    Riello 40 GSD

    The Riello 40 GSD is a two stage gas burner, which would be great since it would provide two different BTU outputs for my steamer: a high output to start and then have a vaporstat drop it to lower output once an ounce of pressure is in the mains.

    But I just noticed it is only available in 220V/50Hz, so it can't be used in the USA. To bad, since this might be easier than using two smaller boilers in my situation.
    Steve from Denver, CO
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,570
    Just

    use a converter,similar to what Viessmann does with the Vitodens 200

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  • Steve Garson_2
    Steve Garson_2 Member Posts: 712


    Converting 60Hz to 50 Hz for a motor is not cheap.
    Steve from Denver, CO
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,570
    Neither

    is two boilers!

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  • Steve Garson_2
    Steve Garson_2 Member Posts: 712


    Good point. But I doubt spare parts would be available.
    Steve from Denver, CO
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,809


    Powerflame is good. I would use a Webster which Smith offers on some boilers.

    ED
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,861
    webster, powerflame etc

    I have found the Websters to be much quiter than the power flames, especially in the 800mbh and above burners, just a note. Other than that, both do the job.
  • RonWHC
    RonWHC Member Posts: 232
    Carlin EZ &

    201GAS. May need to upgrade to a 301GAS, depending on chamber pressure w/ that 350 mbh. They all use Carlin's Combustion Control. Different timings as you go up the ladder. Spark ignition of main flame on all.

    301 is sweet in Smith 19A & Weil 80.

  • Tombig_4
    Tombig_4 Member Posts: 45
    Riello 40 GSD

    That burner is sold only in europe look at www.riello-burners.com don't forget the dash between riello and burners
  • scrook_2
    scrook_2 Member Posts: 610
    but in residential sizes...

    Webster's smallest starts at 400,000 BTU/hr, and Beckett's at 200,000 BTU/hr, Powerflame's even larger, no? Carlin (and Weishaupt??) have smaller. He's looking at a 120,000 to a 350,000 BTU/hr. Be nice to have same brand on all even if two models were required.
  • Steve Garson_4
    Steve Garson_4 Member Posts: 4
    Powerflame X4M-400

    The Powerflame X4M-400 appears to suit the bill.

    It has modulated operation with up to 360 MBH. This would allow me to use a single boiler instead of two boilers to reduce the gas usage once all the steam pipes are up to temp.

    Thoughts?
  • Canadasteam
    Canadasteam Member Posts: 13
    Gas power burners


    Dont forget to have a look Midco EC and Re models.


    http://www.midcointernational.com/products/economite/ec200/


    Good luck
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,577
    power burners

    what exactly are the differences between gas power burners and non power [gravity?] burners?
    i wonder if i should have chosen one of those on our recent pre winter install of a peerless 211A 1,050,000 BTU for one pipe steam.would it have been easier to modulate in a hi-low arrangement controlled by a vaporstat?
    is that type of burner constantly analysing the content of the flue gases [like the engine management system on a fuel injected car] to obtain better economy?
    i will certainly be adding a hi-low feature this summer so that the boiler does not have to cycle on and off so much to maintain the 8 oz. of pressure and allow air back into the pipes which must then be removed by the vents.probably the retrofit of a power burner would not be an option in my case.--nbc
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,577
    power burner advantages?

    i am still hopeful of learning the advantages of power vs. astmospheric burners ,even though i don't think i will have to change my boiler for another 40 years ;however considering how long it takes me to make up my mind i better start thinking about it now!
    this would be for 1-pipe steam in the 1.050,000 btu range.
    i realise that all of you experts will be preoccupied with THE DENVER TRIP so i will have to wait until everyone has wound down from that!!--nbc
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,861
    Nicholas, regarding power burners etc

    In the size range of your boiler, the power burner is by far the better way to go for combustion efficiency. I would think if money is not really the object but best burner choice, Weishaupt ? spelling I think is right. is what I think is the best built burner. Next, as I said before, Webster I like because it is quieter that other burners I have dealt with. Look at Weishaupt, really nice burner, you can shoot the moon with controls. Tim
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