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Tax on vehiches in Denmark (Dan H.)

DanHolohan
DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
I wouldn't want to live in North Korea, but I could easily live in Denmark. It's quite lovely. Have you been?
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    The sales tax

    on a car in Denmark is 180%. For a motorcycle it's 200%. Buy three, get one.

    Gasoline costs about $8.00/gallon.

    Any complaints?
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  • WOW Dan,

    And I thought we had it rough over here!! I wonder what the S/C rate is?

    Dave
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    And the income tax

    is 50%.
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  • jp_2
    jp_2 Member Posts: 1,935
    where

    does all this tax money go? what sort of industry do they have?

    kind of defeats the will to go out and make millions does it?

    looks like they are about the size of tennessee.

  • A Wholesaler
    A Wholesaler Member Posts: 9
    Yes but...

    All the money goes to the Gov
    But the upside is:
    1. Health care is covered
    2. Retirement is around 80% of earned income

    Dan,
    Sounds like you got to take the special flight?
    I went over last Thursday

    Brian
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,568
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  • They are ranked amongst the happiest people in the world, however.

    So which is most important, I wonder?
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    The are certainly

    the most beautiful I've ever seen. Just about everyone is on a bicycle.

    Denmark's population is about the same as that of Brooklyn, NY.

    There are thousands of windmills splashed across the land. The farmers put them up, and then harvest the wind like a crop and sell it to the power company.

    It's wonderful there.
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    All the tax money

    from the sales of cars goes directly to the hospitals.

    We were there from Friday until yesterday.
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  • in hospitals?

    too much beer?

    living on the land?
  • pete_22
    pete_22 Member Posts: 28


    They live in small houses and have the govt control there lives. Sounds great.
  • Christian Egli_2
    Christian Egli_2 Member Posts: 812
    Neeeexxxxxxxt

    How devilishly ironic that the two phantom cars included in the purchase of a new automobile end up parked in healthcare... A nationalized healthcare scheme where one takes a number and waits. Just like for license plates at the bureau of motor vehicles.

    I would much rather get a Danish along with my car purchase, it'd be something to munch on while we wait in traffic.

    Welcome back Dan, it's nice to have you home again.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    I wish

    you could have been with us on the trip.
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  • Seriously. I wonder who's opinion is most worthy of consideration... ours, speculating with little real info, or someone who lives there (who is apparently, statistically speaking, quite happy indeed, #4 in the world).

    I can't wait to go see it.. friend of ours is marrying a Dane and moving there, so we'll have to go visit sometime.
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,568
    The

    North Koreans look very happy when you see them on the news singing and marching.Want to live there?

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  • DRUGMAN
    DRUGMAN Member Posts: 1


    http://www.denmark.dk/portal/page?_pageid=374,692439&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

    Drug use among the highest in Europe. Good thing they have socialized medicine to treat all the druggies.


  • cannabis use. not exactly hard core drug usage there. Might be part of why they are so happy!
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    And

    with car prices what the are, we know the smokers are all on bicycles.

    DAVE'S NOT HERE, MAN!
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  • are you suggesting that denmark is a military autocracy that forces their people to answer 'happy' on surveys or fakes the other indicators in the index?

    If not, that's not really a very fair comparison is it, since in north korea if you express dissent or dissatisfaction, you dissapear.

    In denmark, the people are free, and they are apparently living a pretty good life. I'm not talking about news stories. it's subjective, of course, but this is some info on the GNH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_national_happiness

    denmark scores 4th in the world, I believe. Does that mean the people are actually the 4th most happy in the world? Probably not. But they are doing pretty well.
  • BD Brannan_2
    BD Brannan_2 Member Posts: 14
    I'm with Dan

    It's a great place to visit and I could easily live there too.

    Back in the 80s a friend of mine from the US married a Danish gal. They lived in greater Copenhagen for a time. This guy was a vocal conservative, he complained about the taxes (all the time), but still he loved every minute of his time there. I was lucky enough to be able to visit them twice.

    Yes their taxes are crazy. My folks lived in Germany at the time and I would buy $4 cartons of cigs at the PX to bring as gifts. The reaction was if I had brought them gold bars.

    I seem to recall that the annual registration (i.e, annual tax) on automobiles was pretty salty, on top of that original sales tax. Of course, back then their gas cost only about 3 or 4 dollars a gallon.

    bd
  • mel rowe
    mel rowe Member Posts: 324


    Interesting, Dan. Do they have social programs such as our welfare and aid for dependent children? What incentive do they have to really work hard and be productive when they have to give it all to the government anyway?
  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718
    cars

    In Greece they pay excise tax on their vehicles according to to size of the motor. They figure if you can afford a larger motor car, you can pay more in excise. For example: A Mercedes E300 does not exist there. Its an E200 with a 2.0 liter engine instead of a 3.0. Trust me when I say, 2.0 doesn't do well on a big heavy car.

    Subsequently, they drive small motor cars. and gas is expensive too.

    They do use diesel alot though.

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    I've been there twice,

    and I've been all over the country (it's not that large). The people are absolutely beautiful. I think much of that has to do with all the exercise they get.

    Last Saturday, I walked Copenhagen's main shopping streets and saw people working and shopping and there were no homeless people laying on the sidewalks. Sure, there were protests, but that was the first in many years, and there's much to that story.

    The houses outside the city are neat and there's no garbage to be seen anywhere. The fields are green and the harbors are beautiful.

    At Grundfos, we saw hundreds of people working and they all looked happy to me. They were working in small teams and production was the focus. It was quite a place.

    I think we need to travel more.
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  • Fred Harwood_2
    Fred Harwood_2 Member Posts: 196
    The Danes

    The Danes have the good fortune, for another decade or so, to be energy wealthy as an exporter of gas and oil primarily to the EU. Less than a fifth of their electricity comes from wind and renewables. The highly visible windmill belies the vast gas electric generation facilites
    Taxes and immigration are its current furors, with its largest industries threatening to leave. Younger taxpayers see a bleak future as they contemplate current social burdens, which are increased by immigration.
    Most tourists like Denmark, but go home.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    Interesting perspective.

    When were you there, Fred?
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  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,568
    Why?

    are Illegal immigrants pouring into the USA yet other of the G-8 countries don't seem to have a problem to the same degree we do.Geography?Better security? In the last 200 years the USA has been the destination of choice of immigrants from all over the world and continues to be. Wonder why? I'm not anti-European just pro USA.
    Everyone always talks about the strict German boiler inspections where they shutoff or confiscate your boiler if it doesn't meet standards.Even though I would profit personally I wouldn't want to live in such a place and don't know many who would.Even though many of our freedoms under the Constitution have been eroded severely it's still the best place on Earth.

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  • Why does this have to be a competition?

    Can't denmark be a pretty cool place to be without it meaning anything at all about the USA?

    Why, if someone says something good about another country, does it suddenly become necessary to be "pro USA"?

    Could it be that people are different all over, and that just because other countries do things differently, that doesn't make them or us wrong, just different?
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    Indeed.

    I don't think that being pro-USA and pro-Europe are mutually exclusive. Why not consider the best parts of each place, and learn from it all? Seems to me to be a mature position to take, especially at my age.
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  • Ken_40
    Ken_40 Member Posts: 1,310
    Other than Seattle...

    Which is its own "country"
    They also have the highest incidence of suicide, of any industrial nation.

    The tax rate explains that.

    Never mind.

    It's Sweden that has the distinction...
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    Actually,

    I've heard that it's a result of the men looking at the gorgeous Danish women, and knowing that they can't possibly have them all.

    A fine reason to kill yourself, lad!
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  • http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1414751

    here's some info on suicide.

    "There were 13 countries with suicide rates 1.5 times or more above the mean: these included Sri Lanka, with the highest suicide rate, followed by Lithuania, Russia and Kazakhstan.

    In 24 countries (areas) suicide rates were above, but less than 1.5 times, the mean: this category included Norway, Canada, Latvia, Austria, Finland, Belgium and the USA.

    The remaining 53 countries (areas) had below-average suicide rates (Table 1)."

    What's interesting is Norway, Canada, Latvia, Austria, Finland, Belguim, and USA don't seem like particularly horrible places to live, so I'm not sure that I would relate suicides to overall happiness. Maybe things are so great that people that don't feel so great feel like real freaks by comparison ;)
  • Ken_40
    Ken_40 Member Posts: 1,310
    Wow!

    That certainly refutes my recollection of worthless data!

    Think I'll go sulk over a frosty Guinness.

    Gettin' ready for the big day. It takes lots of preperation, dontchaknow....


  • Train hard Ken, I know it's gruelling, us Irish set a very high bar. The Irish, by the way, also suicide harder than anyone in that previous listing of countries!

    fun facts. maybe we should relate suicides to guiness consumption... you aren't feeling depressed I hope????
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,621
    Also

    because of the women!
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  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,568
    And

    all the profits from the NYS lottery where going to eliminate school taxes! Remember that Dan? As a fellow LI'er I don't have to ask what your school taxes are. Whatever the question is,I can guarantee more Government is not the answer whether that Gov't is Danish or American or whatever.

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  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718
    >>>

    People, don't be fooled. European countries are having immigration problems as well. Not everyone can or wants to come the the U.S. Sometimes the road to the U.S. starts in Europe.

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    I'm just about to buy a good bike for my daily use but unlike Denmark, I have to deal with the two nastiest hills in a very hilly area for my daily use. One extremly steep but fairly short, the other a 1/2 mile long.

    I didn't grow up here and have never biked this hill but did grow up in a hilly town and nearly lived on my bike. Not sure that I would have been able to climb the nasty hill without walking in my prime let alone with about 50 more pounds on a 6'3" frame

    Maybe those expensive "mountain bikes" really are worth it. I hope the local bike shop has a "loaner" to see if I can deal with the ride. If I can make it once surely I'll loose 30 or so of those pounds and get back into my 34-36 Levis.
  • jp_2
    jp_2 Member Posts: 1,935
    just like michigan

    lottery money 'was' suppose to go directly to the schools, but somehow ended up in the general fund box?
  • Maine Doug_60
    Maine Doug_60 Member Posts: 12
    That is

    less costly and less of an issue than the US icarceration rates. The US has about 5% of the worlds population and 22% of the world's prisoners.
  • Fred Harwood_2
    Fred Harwood_2 Member Posts: 196
    Last there

    Morning, Dan. My first trip to Europe was in 1957, landing in Shannon, Ireland, and then by train, ferry, and car around most of islands and continent. I get to the EU about every other year for the past 40 years, last to Switzerland and Austria, and will be going again in late summer. I lived for two years in Germany. Friends came back this week from the Netherlands, visiting family there.
    More to your query, I have just retired after 41 years with an independent economic research group (AIER.org), where I wrote about international energy, environmental, and demographic matters.
    You have an immensely valuable site, and The Wall continues to be a deep well of diverse exchange by generous people.
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