Whining Reillo

Nick L. in Vt

was this also changed/cleaned during service?

Maine Doug_28

One of my Reillos is sick

or cranky. It emits a high pitched whine or squeal during ignition and shuts down from no ignition. Sounds like a high voltage noise. This a week after a cleaning, nozzle etc. Control box? "They" are coming next week.

Doug

Nick L. in Vt

riello

high pitch wining is a classic symptom of high vacuum on your oil supply line. definitely put a guage on it. never seen that from the control though.

LIBOB

Riello

If it was just serviced. Check the shut off valves at tank or near filter & burner. They may not be open all the way. Its a long shot if it ran for a week after being serviced but something to check. Just be careful if they are old valves.
" The more you touch the more you break "

J.C.A._3

You might also....

Check the stem on the oil solenoid. It may have a bit of spooge on it, restricting flow to the nozzle assembly. Just a thought. Chris

Kevin__Flynn

whining

Do you have an overhead oil line?

Kevin Flynn

Nick L. in Vt

spooge?

i just checked my riello, beckett and carlin books and couldn't find that term. probably came from a blue angel guide

J.C.A._3

Nick,

Spooge (pronounced... spuuuge) An acuumulation of forien substances accompanied by a strong and strange smell in the fuel units of offending oil burning equipment. "Websters dictionary" 2006 Pg.971... Alright , the last part was a stretch....But that's my story, and I'm stickin to it. Chris

Ron Schroeder

Actually

It was a term that came into existance in the back seat of a 1956 Chevy while at a drive in.

S Ebels

Further details

Need not be published

J.C.A._3

But...

None the less be entertaining.

I too think it could be a restriction in the fuel supply, but the most obvious point is at the burner and the spindle of the oil valve, if all else has been replaced feeding it.

It is easily resolved by a couple of screws being removed and flushing with some clean fuel. Chris :P

S Ebels

I call it pump lust

The pump is lusting for oil but it can't get it,,,,,,, so it whines. Lot's of people do the same thing.

Glen

OR -

it might be bearings as well - which are easily replaced.

John@Reliable_10

Iagree check the motor bearings BUT

after reading your newest post about 5" of vac and check valves I think you need to redesign that system! Check valves for one are never a good idea

J.C.A._3

Steve....

No pictures please! JCA

Maine Doug_27

A new technical term??

Now I will need a spooge removal and containment device. Ah, an excuse to buys tools.

During the service, we installed Garber filters and guages on each burner. The tank is upstairs in a shed like room on the back door of the building. A 1/2" line comes in and goes thru the floor, follows along the insulated copper lines going to the upstairs panel rads and then into the downstairs vault. There it has a shutoff valve, filter, OSV and then a T into check valves. Now 3/8" lines to the new shutoffs on the Garbers and then to the burners. (The checks were added when I had Becketts and may no longer be required)
With all new filters the vacuum guages on the Garbers read 5 inches. (is this high?) The vacuum holds when the burners are off. The burner that is acting up has about twice the milage but is the much quieter one, thus the higher hours. It ran for 10 days before developing this ignition problem.

It is now the lag unit so as to put some hours on the other boiler/burner.
Perhaps some stethoscope listening to the items all of you have suggested as possible problems will help pinpoint.

Thanks for the tips.

Doug

S Ebels

5 inches

5 inches is way to high on what sounds like basically a gravity feed fuel line. You have something plugging up the works somewhere along the line. Find it and your noise and burner problems will vanish.

Maine Doug_27

OK

I think the check valves will go first. The OSV itself appears to take 3 inches to open it. All 3 filters are new and the oldest valves (5 years) are on the tank and on the original filter. Perhaps the sequence of main filter, OSV, check valve & Garber is too much. It may boil down to having to remove the checks and Garbers since I think the OSV should stay. It sure would be easy to prime with no OSV and 10 feet of head to the tank....

Let me listen to it some more because the high pitch noise seems to be at the start of the sequence just when the ignition comes on and the solenoid is energized. It is not failing to ignite every time. The twin boiler/Reillo is still running fine, also at 5 inches.

chapchap70_2

sequence with OSV

Maine Doug

OSV's go down stream of all filters according to MFR instructions. Maybe I am missing something but why are check valves on this set up if it is basically a gravity system?

Maine Doug_27

OSV location

The OSV is after the main filter but before the new Garber spin-on's installed on each boiler. If the OSV was to be installed after the Garbers we would need two of them.


The checks probably should come off. They were installed when I had Becketts which, in this application, were the most difficult burners to keep going. Hard to light, would run for 2-3 months and start to soot. Even Jim Quincy from QHT (supplied the Biasi's) could not get them to run properly. The checks were one of the attempts to fix the Becketts. Now the Reillos have been running fine- we added the Garbers because the oil we are getting up here this winter is just plain dirty.

Perhaps I can just remove the balls in the checks and see what happens.

I sometimes get to ride these tugs.

Doug

Maine Doug_27

I don't think so.

I was dividing my time between the boiler room and shop so did not see the entire process but I suspect it was not done.
I will ask the tech.