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D107

If anyone has experience with this company please let me know. I am looking for a new oil and oil service co for my Mom's house on LI. OSI was listed in 'find a pro'.

Also, I have been told that oil service companies don't ordinarily test for CO since that's more a potential byproduct of gas combustion. That with oil, bad combustion results more in soot, and if there WAS CO, boiler would go off on safety.True?

Thanks,

David

Paul Pollets

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Ron Schroeder

David

There are two methods of calculating burner effencey, Wet Kit in which there is not a CO detection device very commonly used , Then the electronic method some of the elrctronic devices do check CO some do not, however a properly set up burner by either method is appropriate. The important thing is that they test.

Bruce

DanHolohan

OSI

is our oil company,and they have been for many years. I think they're the berries.

D107

I ask because Mark Hunt has led some great threads on CO

testing, but I never thought it was important only for gas-fired. So you're saying re: oil-fired the wet kits don't test for it but some digitals do, but that it's OK not to. (presumably since CO is not considered a high potential byproduct of oil combustion.)

Thanks,

David

Alan R. Mercurio_3

David the potential for Carbon Monoxide exists just as much with oil as it dose with gas (wood and coal too by the way) It’s also very possible to be producing CO with oil even if there are no traces of smoke. To much air being added is one of the common causes.

Combustion test should always be done no matter what fuel is being burned.

I hope this helps some.


Your friend in the industry,
Alan R. Mercurio

www.oiltechtalk.com

Mark Hunt

Rubbish


and I have heard it repeated like a mantra for years.

As Alan has already pointed out, ANYTHING that burns will produce CO. The level of CO is determined by how well the fuel is burned, NOT by what type of fuel it is.

While soot is a sure sign of bad combustion, no soot is NOT a sign of good combustion. You could have 0 smoke and CO through the roof, I've seen it. LP and natural gas can make soot too, should we assume that the combustion process is is good as long as there is no soot? Car exhaust produces tens of thousands ppm of CO with no soot. I've tested gas water heaters in the 3000ppm range and no soot. I caught an oil furnace with 1300ppm CO and guess what, no soot.

As for the boiler going off on "safety" in the event that CO was present, that is so completely false it is terrifying. How does a boiler, or furnace for that matter, know if there is CO? Is there a sensor somewhere? And why bother putting a "safety" in for something that can't happen? There are NO safety switches for CO.

Wet kits test for CO2 only, they do not measure CO. So if a wet kit is used you only get a small portion of the combustion picture and you cannot know what the CO levels are.

There is NO reason for not having digital testing equipment these days just as there is NO reason for not testing.

There was one part of your last sentance where you were given accurate information. It is ".....oil service companies don't ordinarily test for CO....."

Forget the rest.

Hope this cleared things up a bit!

Mark H


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Ron Schroeder

Mark

While I agree with you I must say that where I am from it is the the oil companies that are using electronics more than plumbers and HVAC Techs. Just to keep from putting out too many blanket statments. Actually I find it rare that anyone other than an oil company uses any combustion equipment.

Bruce

Mark Hunt

I should edit that


to read ".....most service companies....."

Glad to hear that there are folks testing in your area, not the case around here.

A few months back I had a post that asked anyone reading to call 5 of the biggest service companies in their area and ask if CO testing was done. Most of the companies questioned answered no.

Perhaps we should try that again and ask about combustion testing and digital testing equipment?

Thanks Bruce.

Mark H


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Ron Schroeder

Mark

The difference may also be in that here while oil companies do most gas companies don't unless they do both, and here oil is king as Natural gas is only found in the cities proper and propane is not a comon heating fuel except in summer cottages.