supreme court does it again

joel_19

It WAS different state to state but not anymore the court basically put the kabosh on that . Teddy k has a nice peice of beach front up here in Mass . It's really a waste right now . What we need there is a nice board walk with shops and a public beach. Who's with me ? We could probably make a case for a national plumbing and steam heat museum on a big Texas ranch.

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jeff_51

Isn't it nice to know

that your town or city can kick you out of your house, and give it to some other guy who just wants to build a bigger one so the town can get more taxes. That's what in effect the court has ruled this am. It's time for another revolution. Mr T Jefferson thought we would need one about every generation. I think we are overdue!

Robert O'Connor_11

I have been

fuming over this ruling all day!!! Kicking a man out of his home!! It is disgusting!!

Regards

Robert

ME

gerry gill

dont get me started on these

liberal weenies..

Robert O'Connor_11

its not about

liberal or conservative..... A mans home is his castle!!

Regards

Robert

ME

carl_6

liberal or conservative..... A mans home is his castle!!

Sorry, not any more.

Pat K

" America is at that ackward stage. It is to late to work with in the system and to early to shoot the ****."
Claire Wolfe


I think the clock is ticking faster.

Nick_16

I am as strong a democrat as I can be

and I don't agree with this. I think it is terriable!

bigugh_4

AMEN!

& AMEN!

Matt Clina

Stupified

I have also been disgusted by this decision, and I agree that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. It is just blatant disregard for the constitution.

I thought that the stereotype is that liberals are for individual rights, while conservatives favor big business. How is it that the liberal judges have sided with big business on this one?

Or is that that we are so partisan that since the conservatives are against this, than the liberals feel they must automatically be for it?

The possible ramifications of this decision are terrifying.

The founding fathers have got to be rolling in their graves.

PS

More Power

I have to disagree - this is about eminent domain and "big" business doesn't have that power, "big" government does. Ironic how conservatives are labelled as being in the pocket of "big" business, yet it was the liberal Supremes who are responsible for this decision. Another example of "our" government serving themselves and perpetuating an "ends justify the means" philosophy.

Dave Yates (PAH)

Blood will be spilled!

Imagine taking folks' homes to put in a mall or big box or anything else that enriches developers while depriving US citizens of their rights. Someone somewhere will snap & lives will be lost.

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Ranger

I can't decide...

...If I am considered a Surf or an Indentured servent in this New World Order...

Dan_15

I dont agree with the ruling either, but do not forget that the state must provide due consideration for the property that is being taken. This is likely to be equivalent to the fair market value of the property at the time of taking, i.e., what the homeowner could have received in a market sale. I dont know if the state is required to pay for costs and expenses as well, including new mortgage fees, relocation costs, attorney's fees, etc., but I would think so. So, the ultimate result is more of a timing issue--being forced to move before you really wanted to. Anyway, who would want to keep a home that is built next to a stadium or an airport? The real problem with eminent domain is that it can be fraught with abuse. As the first post points out, an abusive state can find a "valid purpose" to take property for just about any reason, including giving the property to another private homeowner. In my opinion, eminent domain should be strictly limited to public projects, i.e., highways, dams, water resources, etc.

Michal

PERFECT EXAMPLE

I live in Yonkers, NY and in downtown they want to build a minor league ball field, so the city has claimed eminent domain over 20 businesses. this all at the pressure of a minor league team owner saying he will move to some place else if they do not build it. since when is a ball park considered grounds for eminent domain when there is Yonkers raceway, which is falling apart and a much better place to do something like that. like stated earlier, they governments are being pressured to find more money for taxes, schools and other nonsense such as a 6 figure salary for a 24 y/o accountant. I believe eminent domain is being abused, and its a matter of time before people revolt. The government will pay you ASSESED Value of your home, NOT Market Value. And they will offer a limited amount for moving and relocation if anything at all. so you lost a 600k house for 400k and 25k in moving fees. Nice to work your whole life for a "HOME" to have it taken away. My view is the more lawes and rules made, the more we the hard working middle class lose.

Imagine what would happen if we all YES, all of us on this site, Got together and went into the neighborhoods of our senetors families houses, like the kennedies, Bushes, etc claimed eminent domain and put up a mall. What would happen then??????

You think Their views just might change?????????

I can fit 6 in my truck, maybe 10, Texas Roadtrip anyone??????????????

Dont mean to vent guys, but my Parents came here from Europe with $100 in their pockets, built a life bought a home, and now to lose that, its disgraceful

Dave Yates (PAH)

in this case

it was a group of homeowners owning shore property & the town wants to kick them out to build a commercial district. Stinks in my opinion.

You can forget the due consideration thing too. We're seeing eminent domain being exercised a bit too freely in our area right now. Same person who, while serving as a township supervisor, attempted a land-grab to build a road to serve a mall & lost due to wetlands regs. Regs for wetlande changed & she went back in and took the old guys land. The stress killed him - literally. Now that she was voted in as a county comish, she's at it again on a much grander scale - lots of acerage for a county park. The new park will be within shooting distance of an existing park & even the York County Parks servics has said they don't need it or want the additional financial burden.

So, one person with a pet project is taking land. The local level is not the place to grant those types of powers. Too much "good ole boy" nonsense goes on behind the scenes.

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Michal

Prime example

Westchester Medical center In westchester County, just Expanded a 300 million Dollar addition, yest they are 180 Million on debt, and the board knew it. Now they want to raise taxes, etc. What the Hell. Let the CEO, CFO and all the 7 figure earning people repay for their mistakes like a 10,000 Jet fee to fly to Buffalo for a conference, that included dinners for 3, Limo, Etc.

Eminent Domain Is Being Abused for The wrong projects, Dave Like you said People in Office have Pet Projects, and tahts it

I am saying this al lWhile I just accepted a Assistant Engineering Position With a Local Municipality. Cant wait to see the inside deals goign on

Al Corelli

Pick me up on your way to Texas. I'm right here in New Rochelle.

How about that 30% county tax hike?

I'm paying over 12 grand a year as it is.

clammy

Big goverment big business

In alot of ways it's happening everywhere to every one goverment officals siding and profiting with real estate developers and when hand in hand can use any and all tools to get what they want your only choice is to move to the side and let there progress roll on through in there lies they all ways have unions workers who will benefit from these jobs which helps there polical dreams of whats right for there buddies pockets and kick backs .I love this country but if all these politains where total accountable for all the side action that goes on you wouldn't find one out there if there incomes where not offset by other means .Too me public officals where not elected to fatten there own wallets nor help polital buddies profit while we foot the tab .I have no political connection nor would i want to just remenber the top 1% that have controlled things for over 800 years still in fact control most if not all of the current events and gobal economics for the most part officals are only puppets on a string with in turn is being pulled by the richest of the rich to keep them on top . peace clammy fire away

Steamhead

I think Eminent Domain laws

vary from state to state. It's worth checking to see if they could get away with that in your area. We know about Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

To everyone in the New London, CT and York County, PA areas: Vote the **** out!

Constantin

Eminent Domain...

... to me, the interpretation by the Supreme court majority did not hold true. In the case of railroads, airports, etc. one could argue that even though the end-result entity was privately-owned that it served a public service, i.e. transportation.

Taking away homes from people in a functioning neighborhood so that a well-connected developer can derive excessive economic returns via the local legislature can only be summed up as: IT STINKS!

The only way to fix it, IMHO, is to stipulate, state by state or federally, that any eminent domain land-grabs for (ultimately) private purposes require the local council to pay 5-10x the market rate for the land.

Furthermore, should any such land be re-released into private use (shopping, condos, etc.) then the former owners should have the right of first refusal to buy it back at the inflation-adjusted sale price.

Scott Denny

Having been eminent domained, I could write a small book about the process. However, it's still too painful to think about. Suffice to say, it's rotten to the core and the legal profession likes it that way, as with torts. I had a feeling the high court would eventually have to deal with this hot subject when I heard landowners were objecting (in court) to these "takings" which were for the express purpose of increasing taxes and for no other viable public good. I don't avocate revolt on this issue, but I would sign a petition to have this placed on the next national ballot. Let all the people decide, not just 5 (a court majority).

RonWHC

Looks like 5

of the black robed Mafia need to take a remedial English Class. This is what happens when we elect folks who appoint those who believe in a "living Constitution."

You can forget fair compensation for property after this one. The ruling is so broad that a property owner no longer has any leverage to bargain with.

And. Don't think your votes can change anything. The crooks will tell you they don't approve of what has happened. Then they will appoint a commission to decide when & how to do the dirty work. When you ask what happened, they will show you their unstained hands.

Time to muster on Lexington Green?

Steamhead

In a New York Times article

it was mentioned that individsual states could place restrictions on the use of eminent domain. California has some restrictions which would not allow New London-style corporate welfare- what about your state (forgetting Connecticut and Pennsylvania, which apparently have none)?

Maine Ken

Legislator in Maine has already introduced legislation that would ban the very action the supreme court made ok. Should pass quite easily.

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joeoilman

they're doing that in syracuse now. very rich mall developer is going to displace 26 businesses to put up his " technology park" & take most of the north side neighborhoods to expand his mall into a resort mall. all the while sucking up state money & 30 year tax exemptions while pushing around the state & local governments to get his way. he's worth over 700 million,he should spend his own money!!!!