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You're very welcome Rhonda it was my pleasure. I take it you found your way to Dan's Library. :) Best wishes to you with your project and as I said earlier if I can be of further assistance don't hesitate to drop me a line.

Your friend in the industry,<BR>Alan R. Mercurio<BR><BR><a href="http://oiltechtalk.com/discuss/index.php?sid=63c67a82829fdbdda388591b32998104">www.oiltechtalk.com</a><BR><BR>

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  • JSPAK
    JSPAK Member Posts: 25
    oil nozzel replacement or just cleaning

    i hold a s-1 liscense in the state of ct.work in the maintenance dept of a good size school system.i have always been told that replacing a nozzel on a oil burner is the way to go .my boss is taking advice from someone that all a oil nozzel needs to be is cleaned and will be just as good as a new one . i need some hard facts to explain to him that oil nozzel replacement is the way to go (once a year)any websites or forums would be greatlyappriciated
  • Alan R. Mercurio_3
    Alan R. Mercurio_3 Member Posts: 1,624


    JSPAK, I'm sure if you contact any of the manufaturers Delavan,DanFoss, Hago or others they would tell you that's what's recommended. many of us as technicians would agree and it's not just becuse they sell tem :)

    As for an oil burner forum I'd love to have you pay a visit to one of the most popular oilheating websites in the industry. Yes I'm tooting my horn but with pride my friend.

    Click here to visit Oil Tech Talk

    Your friend in the industry,
    Alan R. Mercurio

    www.oiltechtalk.com

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  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    Throwing nozzels at a badly operating burner once a year is

    useless behaviour. it may be the nozzel in it is fine and dandy just the way it is.it would be like taking the glass out of your bathroom window and replacing it every time condensation formed on it while you were taking a shower.
  • Alan R. Mercurio_3
    Alan R. Mercurio_3 Member Posts: 1,624


    Thanks MD :)

    Your friend in the industry,
    Alan R. Mercurio

    www.oiltechtalk.com

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  • ed wallace
    ed wallace Member Posts: 1,613
    replacing nozzles vs cleaning nozzles

    if cleaning nozzles is a good idea how come in oil heat trade schools they teach students that cleaning nozzles is a last resort measure only to be done late at nite in order to give the customer heat?

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  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    Believe it or not there are

    several including the one previously mentioned.

    There's this one: Fuel Oil News



    And this one: Oilheating



    And, oh yeah last but not least, mine.

    http://firedragonbbs.connactivity.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi

    BTW, I think everyone is thinking small here. If this is a 50 or 100 gallon nozzle that sells for several hundred dollars the nozzle can and should be cleaned using a non-abrasive solvent. I noticed you worked for a school system, so size is important, FYI.

  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    FYI, I've never taught that in

    30 years except for big nozzles like this:

    big nozzle



  • Rhonda
    Rhonda Member Posts: 2
    timken rotary burner

    Can anyone tell me about the inherant problems associated with the old timken rotary oil burners? Were they as good as timken claimed? Why hasnt this form of burner technology been pursued further?
    A special thanks to Alan Mercurio for for responding to my original e-mail and putting me on to this web site!!
  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    I worked on the Timken's

    and there were no problems with them at all. In 1970 I went to work for a company in Boston that counted over 6000 in the customer base.

    Even today many are still working out there and are relatively trouble free.

    Biggest problems with them were they were like many old products, hard to kill. They also required a bit of skill to work on since they were like the infamous Swiss watches and almost never broke down.

    Many will tell you that they couldn't run anymore due to the fuel and that to keep them running many switched to kero, not true IMO!

    What, IMO killed them was just a lack of a person called a hearthman. The vertical rotary required a hearth that had to be built like a work of art, if it was, they ran till the end (40-50 years).

    When Timken went out of business due to price from less expensive designs and the old hearthmen died that was it.

    Three indisputable facts I know to be totally true.

    One, you could not hear a vertical rotary while it was running and it ran at up to 12% CO2 with virtually no NOX since it was a blue flame burner.

    Two, they only had one moving part and that made them virtually trouble free if setup right and,

    Three, my father-in-law still has one running with all original parts and it will be 59 years old next June. It has had only five service calls in it's lifetime. He is a true master of the art-form and started working on them in 1937, I am a mere apprentice of 38 years.

    One final thought, the key to the reliabilty of the Timken was the ball bearing at the base of the Mono-Rotor, it's only moving part. It was the tiniest part and the heart of the burner and came from the original tapered design of Mr. Henry Timken.

    Today almost every load-bearing wheel in the world rides on Timken's bearings or his design and that's a little history.
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