Backflow preventer on indirect

Dave Yates (PAH)

the professional inspections they're paying for or get the **** out of Dodge!

God, how I'd love the opportunity to address my State's legislative body regarding this mess. No, wait chust a minuet, they're the same gang that gave themselves a huge twelfth-hour pay raise without letting the public comment. Only they've called it by some other name - unvouchered expenses. Ahhhh, politics - ain't it grand. Corruption knows no boundaries!


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Wayco Wayne_2

This is a new one on me

An inspector was looking over my latest boiler/indirect install and said I needed a backflow preventer on the incoming water line to the indirect water heater to pass inspection. He said that since the indirects heat exchanger was not a double walled HX I needed the backflow preventer on the cold water line. That would mean that if there was a rupture in the HX wall and the house potable had no pressure at the time because of a broken main or repair work being done at the time, that the potable water system would be safe from boiler water. Seems a little too cautious to me. What does your jurisdiction say about this. WW

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Dave Yates (PAH)

no it wouldn't

he forgot the potable hot water side would be energized! For that matter, he's not thinking clearly. The potable side will have much higher pressure causing the hydronic side relief valve to continually discharge if the hx is compromised.

Is it in a code book - in writing? If not, is it in an ordinance duly publicized and passed by the governing body? If not, he's not in a position to be making up rules to suit his mood today. He is obligated to produce that in writing or you have no obligation to follow his demands.


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Big Ed

Vacuum Breaker

> An inspector was looking over my latest

> boiler/indirect install and said I needed a

> backflow preventer on the incoming water line to

> the indirect water heater to pass inspection. He

> said that since the indirects heat exchanger was

> not a double walled HX I needed the backflow

> preventer on the cold water line. That would mean

> that if there was a rupture in the HX wall and

> the house potable had no pressure at the time

> because of a broken main or repair work being

> done at the time, that the potable water system

> would be safe from boiler water. Seems a little

> too cautious to me. What does your jurisdiction

> say about this. WW

>

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I see the need for a vacuum breaker not a bfp. It the hx had a hole the boilers relief valve would be poping.I would go down to town hall and let him show you the code..

Big Ed

Vacuum Breaker

I see the need for a vacuum breaker not a bfp. If the hx had a hole, the boilers relief valve would be poping all over the place.I would go down to town hall and let him show you the written code..Bring donuts

Big Ed

Vacuum Breaker

Cosmo_3

Barney Fife inspection service

Dave has it right, also don't forget that even if the potable water pressure becomes lower than boiler pressure, the backflow preventer will not prevent water from mixing in the single handle faucets..........

Maybe the inspector wanted to say that a potable water thermal expansion tank should be installed after a check valve, and before the water heater cold water inlet on systems with hot water recirc pumps.......


Cosmo Valavanis

Dependable P.H.C. Inc.

Cosmo_3

Hey compadre

I here ya and feel your pain

I am going to my monthly AMPA meeting (Allentow Master Plumber's Assoc.), we always have complaints about our local inspectors..... but our powers are limited, doesn't mean we don't get our shots in and win once in a while! Well, we get to drink beer and hear dirty jokes anyway........


Cosmo Valavanis

Dependable P.H.C. Inc.

Dave Yates (PAH)

formal complaint form

I downloaded a formal complaint form from the State of PA regarding codes inspections. It awaits my signature to initiate an investigation into the allegations of abuse and incompetence. The single biggest problem keeping me from sending it on to Eddie-two-fingers, is that the abuses keep piling on.

Add to that, the fact that I have an insider giving me damning information regarding the "selection" of the third-party inspection agency that is bleeding our city economically, and there's going to be a slight delay before I file a formal complaint.

Let me know if your group would like a link to the site for the form. They promise to investigate all legit complaints & as I understand it, they have received a ton of complaints already. It's time we stood and demanded professional services our customers are entitled to recieve for the outrageous fees they're being charged.

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