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Boiler Room Space

Ragu_5 Member Posts: 315
I'll raise a sympathetic dram to ye all! More space! Less filling! Let the mechanicals shine on!

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  • Ragu_5
    Ragu_5 Member Posts: 315
    Just Me?

    It seems that lately I've been getting squeezed for space in my boiler rooms. Are you guys also being pushed into smaller mechanical spaces? Thanks. Jack

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  • Singh_5
    Singh_5 Member Posts: 41
    new trend

    I just fought with homeowner about a 3500 ft2 house he's building, no where for mechanicals,slab on grade, and no attic either for duct work.
    After alot of back and forth I got 6x6 in the three car garage.

    Another house 8x8 but I have to share with the washer and dryer :(

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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Isn't it amazing ?

    The things that are going to keep folks COMFORTABLE in their new and most likely biggest investment in life, are an after thought? I'd like to grab each and every designer and architect that draws these foolish plans and stuff em in there with a wrench and the simplest of tasks. My guess is it wouldn't change too many minds, but they may THINK about it on the next one.Or better yet, hand them a bill for the water heater changeout that required the furnace to be removed for replacement.

    My second favorite is the "Change". Oh, by the way, remember that wall that was going to be right there?...it's now gone, and we've made the mechanical room smaller so they can have a space to store the Christmas decorations.(or a variation of such importance)

    Remember, YOU can always say NO. I think I'm pretty lucky in the area I work. For the most part, mechanical spaces aren't thought the necessary evil that the rest of the country thinks they are. Heating is a must,and most folks have dealt with it all their lives.(although I do get to Ron Jr. out...once in a while!)

    Like Milne always says,"Common Sense....it ain't so common". Chris
  • Ragu_5
    Ragu_5 Member Posts: 315
    Ahh! Cris and Singh....

    Many thanks! I felt (deep down) that I was not alone.

    Yeah, here in Maine, heat can be fairly important when it gets cold outside. I am constantly amazed that people continually want to put their clothes dryer next to their boiler. Also, I am amazed that people want to hide our beautiful piping.

    Ah well, Grasshoppers: so the web of life continues to be untangled. Thanks. Jack

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  • u too?

    Had a cottage with 6 rooms built on private golf course. I argued that mechical won't be big enough for fire alarm system, water heaters, water treatment, etc and then they made it smaller! Now have five seprated furances for each room in the attic and only access is thru the mech room. No pull down stair, no ladder except to carry the 2 pieces ladder and jammed, bumped into aforementioned systems... Those dumb a*** archeicts that never had their hands dirty ...
  • mikea23
    mikea23 Member Posts: 224
    always happens to me

    I just Finished a 8000 sqf home my mechanical room was 5.5x7 with 80 gallon indirect all radiant small 500 sqf of snow melt. My top guy made it fit and it lookied great.I would love to post pics but when we finished the central vac guy hung his unit infront of the circ bank.I was so mad now its a nightmare to service system.Dam GC said it was ok there

    Mike A
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    it is just plain Wrong not to have a seperate mechanical

    room or out building.some 3 sided affair bolted to the building with acess from outside with a seperate circuit just for the tools and a light.
  • Brad White_160
    Brad White_160 Member Posts: 18
    Common Circumstance

    Thus it has always been. In my field we get on-board with the architects at conceptual stage and feed them shaft sizes, mechanical room sizes of all types. Architects often come back with a counter-offer (like, what? My first information was made-up?) And so it goes...

    My design philosophy is to design the rooms for the person who will work in it; do that and it practically designs itself.

    Too often we have to bring out the "Shoehorn and Vaseline Detail" to get stuff to fit.

    One job that was finished in 1998 had reasonable mechanical space, some attic units but the air-cooled 46 ton chiller had it's own room (self ventilating) and a decent boiler room for the Viessmann Vertomats, pool DHU, Vitocells, pumps and all. The Owner knew the value of serviceability. That job was an exception to be sure.

    One other job I did for a local Hi-Tech guru near Boston (1829 historic old house thus fixed limited space) included a Sears automotive dolly to scoot under the ductwork...

    No, Jack, you are not alone.
  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177
    proper layout

    I always stress the point if proper space is not provided for equipment , warranties will be voided. and i refuse to work on components and controls without adequate clearance if initial installation could have been done properly. some people will not give one square inch up for mechanical systems.
  • Rollie Peck
    Rollie Peck Member Posts: 47

    Mike A:

    How about charging the homeowner for removing the vacuum

    unit before servicing his heating system and reinstalling

    the vacuum unit after servicing his heating system?

    Rollie Peck

  • Boilerpro_5
    Boilerpro_5 Member Posts: 407
    I suppose....

    you could ask the building owner just how long they want to be without heat in the middle of the winter and have it cost much more to repair.


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