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Ford Transmission and Brake failures
Boilerpro_5
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that several folks posted here about transmission and brake problems in thier Ford vans at about 40,000 miles. I recently had a major failure of my transmission in my E250....I was told the planetary gear broke and required replacement/rebuild of the transmision. Ther were no signs of overheating etc.....The thing just plumb broke when I was acellerating from a stop sign on dry pavement. This is a great concern for me as I usually run about 7,200 lbs total and about 10,000 max when we use the vehicle for vacation (a pop up comes for the ride) for the vehicle with nearly all mileage on the highway. The vehicle is rated at 8600 lbs GVW and I believe about 14,000 GCW...vehicle and trailer.
For those that have had problems, what has been the nature of the failures. BTW brakes needed to be done too as there was excessive corrosion of the discs...pads still have 1/2 to 1/3 wear left.
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For those that have had problems, what has been the nature of the failures. BTW brakes needed to be done too as there was excessive corrosion of the discs...pads still have 1/2 to 1/3 wear left.
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so that's what the word means...
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so that's what the word means...
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Fix or
repair, daily.
Although, Fords are all I owned when in business and they used to outlast the Reading bins I had installed.
Jack0 -
Next you will have
them arguing over which is better chevy ford or should we import mercedes work vans already stocked with vitodens0 -
Volvo work vans
and yes, prestocked with Vitodens and accessories.
One thought I had for a great sales aid: Imagine having a sales truck (RV size) with several of the Mod/con boilers mounted in it. You could show the people the differences and how they look. Then have a nice table (with refreshments) for them to complete their order for the boiler of their choice. Seeing and touching are powerfull sales aids.
Maybe I should go back into sales...
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Can I drive?
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Sheesh, always a bunch of Jokers....
Good though and I've always wanted to set up a van that way, complete with several types of heating units in use along with a scorched air section for comparison.
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All the van's that i had (6) had to have brakes one, seems that on the 250 and 350 they used the brake system from the f-150, these were not beefy enuff for the loads and starts and stops we do, my mech said to have slotted brake rotors put in to disapate the heat, when we had the reg rotors put in they would shimmy after 1000 miles or so because the rotors would heat up and warp and wear the brakes right down.0 -
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Fipppin Old Repaired Dodge
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I had a similiar problem early on and....
found out that it was caused by the wheels not being properly torqued when reinstalled. I spoke to my alignment shop and they pulled them and reinstalled them using 2 or 3 passes running all 8 lugs in cross fashion with a torque wrench. Within 15 miles or so the pull was nearly gone. Just a light touch up with a cutter took care of the rest. Very few shops torque the wheels properly. Maybe this was your problem too!
Boilerpro
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On all my
Ford trucks (2) and vans (2) and Explorers (2), whenever the wheels were off (for whatever reason), I loosened and retorqued with a torque wrench when I got home from the shop. If I didn't, the brakes pulsed from disc warp.
When taking delivery of said new Fords, I always asked for the Dealer to throw in an alignment check. I proposed that if it was on, I would pay. If it was off, they would pay, I had to watch. If the dealer refused, we documented it and I went on my way. I have had front tires replaced at 10k miles by the dealers that tried to convince me that vehicles are delivered with proper alignmnent and tire balance.
Just for the Ford/Chevy thing, my family is 4 generations of Ford owners but I now drive a Jeep Wrangler after selling the truck this year.0 -
Yep, I was told it is a common problem by the alignment shop..NM
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Let's see...
Maybe I can get it right with the alignment...
C = Cracked
h = head
e = every
v = valve
r = rattles
o = oil
l = leaks
e = every
t = time
Chevrolet = Cracked head, every valve rattles, oil leaks every time
All things considered, there is no 'perfect' brand. I've driven Fords all my life and have had minimal problems with them. It's like all things, you GOTTA do maintenance on them.
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Several reps from different manufacturers..
have these, AFAIK. I met Glenn Stanton in Medford, MA where he was showing off the various new products from Burnham, for example. I agree that such trailers are powerful sales tools, particularly if the aim is to give lessons in the field. Nothing like a pre-installed assy that you can fire up as needed to emulate all sorts of real-life situations.0 -
Not knocking Ford......
my family has bought Fords since the 1950's, but this type of failure really concerns me. The vehicle is in premium condition, with no abuse. I maintain my vehicles to get at least 150,000 out of them, hopefully much more. Our 1993 Escort has about 225,000 miles on it, burns no oil, has had only 3 parts replaced beyond normal wear and tear, and still gets about 33mpg. This is the kind of life I expect out of a vehicle. Major component failures like this transmissionindicates something was very wrong in the first place.....either poor materials or poor design.
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Usually a broken gear occurs becasue
of a flaw in the metal. Every Mfr has this happen occasionally. Of all the thousands of gears produced some of them have inherent flaws in them. The gears themselves come from a small number of gear companies who make gears for the automotive industry. Literally the next production run on the line may be for gears for a different Mfr.
While it is possible to nick and chip the gear teath from other issues - that does not break the gear.
Perry
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3 Fords in the \"fleet\"
06 F-250, 05 F-250, 05 500 sedan.
No major problems with any of them. We have had what are obvioulsy QC issues with all of them. The 500 sedan is a joy to drive, roomy, quiet, strong motor, corners like it's on rails, 6'8" Matt finds plenty of space in it even in the back seat, gets a steady 23 short trippin' and will hit an honest 28mpg out on the highway at 75-80mph. The only problem we've had is a back door moulding that came off a few times. The dealer finally replaced it and it's staying on.
Both F-250's have had the dash instrument cluster replaced due to some wierd electrical glitches. The speedometer would suddenly drop to zero or maybe go the other way and wander between 60-90 while traveling at a steady 55-60. The 05 had some transmission programming issues that caused it to shift lazily between 2nd and 3rd gear. Still not right. The 06 currently has some electrical problems that have not been resolved. The heater will inexplicably cease to operate with the indicator lights in the control going blank, might last for a few minutes and come back on, might last a few hours, usually begins to work if I shut off the truck and restart. The heated seat quit last week, (Murphy's Law-stuff never breaks until you need it, same as your heating system). Mileage on both of the trucks (6.0 diesel) has been disappointing compared to the 97 and 01 models I had with the 7.3 litre. I expected an increase and they both have to be driven very easy to get the same as the old trucks. 14-16 MPG is about all we can get out of them.
Both trucks have gobs of power. The 06 pulls the fifth wheel trailer with my small backhoe on it like it's hardly there. Total weight of the trailer and equipment is 10,000 to 11,000 lbs so it's a decent sized load to haul. Mileage drops to about 10.5-11 when tugging a load like that. When trying to pull away from a corner at a brisk rate on wet roads with either truck, you have to feather the throttle or you wind up sideways in a hurry. Crazy to think a 6,500# vehicle has the torque to do that kind of stuff. All in all we like them a lot.0 -
Over the course of 7 out of 9 1/2 years...
I had 4 E-250 vans and everyone of them had numerous problems over the ~2 years and ~50,000 miles I drove them. The first two needed brakes every 20,000 miles, the tires had to be rotated religiously to have any chance of getting 30,000 or more miles out of them due to never being able to keep the front end aligned. I've had the air bag computer, anti-lock brake computer, and multiple radios die between all of those. Probably some other things that are slipping my mind right now.
The best one was the either '02 or '03 that the tranny completely disintegrated over the course of a few days at 31,000 miles~. When it first started to die, it would lock up and stall the engine when coming to a stop, unless I revved the engine as I slowed down. When I took it to the dealership, the tranny showed a combo of codes that didn't make sense, and the head mechanic wound up going all the way to the head engineer that designed the transmission to find an answer. The best part was the engineer wasn't even sure what was going on, but was able to narrow it down to two parts and told the mechanic to change both and it should be fine. Well the transmission fell apart before he had a chance to try those two parts. In his words "there were at least a thousand pieces in the pan when I dropped it". So that truck got a new tranny. With all of that, I'm NOT impressed with Ford van's at all.
Now on the other hand my new boss uses Chevy's, and bought me a brand new 2500 shortly after I started with him. A year later and 31,000 miles, the only 2 thing I've had done other than normal maintenance was new tires at 30,000 (cheap tires from factory and I carry a lot of weight) and the side door latch that holds the door open cracked and was replaced. Otherwise I change the oil when the oil change light comes on (4,000 to 5,000) and get in the thing and go every day.
Oh yea, one other thing. The '00 (I think) fiasco where the paint flaked of all the bumpers in the first ~20,000 miles on thousands of vans. And with that the fact that Ford shipped all the bumpers to the dealerships with only a primer coat and the dealerships had to sned them to a body shop for the final coat. Every once in a while I see a van with a BRIGHT gray bumper(s) and say "There's another one the dealership didn't paint".0 -
> 06 F-250, 05 F-250, 05 500 sedan.
>
> No major
> problems with any of them. We have had what are
> obvioulsy QC issues with all of them. The 500
> sedan is a joy to drive, roomy, quiet, strong
> motor, corners like it's on rails, 6'8" Matt
> finds plenty of space in it even in the back
> seat, gets a steady 23 short trippin' and will
> hit an honest 28mpg out on the highway at
> 75-80mph. The only problem we've had is a back
> door moulding that came off a few times. The
> dealer finally replaced it and it's staying
> on.
>
> Both F-250's have had the dash instrument
> cluster replaced due to some wierd electrical
> glitches. The speedometer would suddenly drop to
> zero or maybe go the other way and wander between
> 60-90 while traveling at a steady 55-60. The 05
> had some transmission programming issues that
> caused it to shift lazily between 2nd and 3rd
> gear. Still not right. The 06 currently has some
> electrical problems that have not been resolved.
> The heater will inexplicably cease to operate
> with the indicator lights in the control going
> blank, might last for a few minutes and come back
> on, might last a few hours, usually begins to
> work if I shut off the truck and restart. The
> heated seat quit last week, (Murphy's Law-stuff
> never breaks until you need it, same as your
> heating system). Mileage on both of the trucks
> (6.0 diesel) has been disappointing compared to
> the 97 and 01 models I had with the 7.3 litre. I
> expected an increase and they both have to be
> driven very easy to get the same as the old
> trucks. 14-16 MPG is about all we can get out of
> them.
>
> Both trucks have gobs of power. The 06
> pulls the fifth wheel trailer with my small
> backhoe on it like it's hardly there. Total
> weight of the trailer and equipment is 10,000 to
> 11,000 lbs so it's a decent sized load to haul.
> Mileage drops to about 10.5-11 when tugging a
> load like that. When trying to pull away from a
> corner at a brisk rate on wet roads with either
> truck, you have to feather the throttle or you
> wind up sideways in a hurry. Crazy to think a
> 6,500# vehicle has the torque to do that kind of
> stuff. All in all we like them a lot.
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we have two fords now after having all dodges just got an 06 milan/fusion it has lots of power for a four cylinder it gets about 34 mpg great efficient smart 5 speed automatic .she was put to the test on a road trip through the mountains to californa and back and it well surpassed our expectations. lots of interior room very comfortable. i give her 5 stars great car to drive. and then we have a 1990 tempo that has had no major problems at all.
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we have seven fords and one dodge 2500 P/U one GMC(ISUZU) cab over rack truck three of them are 06 ford diesels two have bin good so far one is a lemon we are trading it in after the winter it spends more time in the shop than in our customers driveways.all have 10 to 20 K on them our 03 diesel vans old 7.3 motor have bin very good. Just like every one we do brakes alot and front ends arent the best. But I hate to say our Isuzu as ugly and uncomfortable to drive as it is. Is by far the best truck in the fleet 240K original motor and trans replace breaks about every 60K they are expensive to have fixed tho. this truck just runs and runs. It also never has the same driver in it so the abuse it takes is more then the others. It also gets great MPG. Now only if it wasnt so UGLY
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fords
One thing we always have done on all our vans when in shop is to actually flip the tires on the rims when they come off the front for rotation. Seems like vans (ford especially) will wear heavy on the outside tread. For light duty can't beat the old 300 straight 6. Last one had 300K and still running (although had blow-by problem) when we got rid of. Wish they still offered that motor. Braking has always been high maintenance. Next new van will have discs all around. Rear drums suck! We have ford and chevy.. they're all great until they break down and then they're the biggest pieces of #$@$# made!0 -
HEY EJ!!
We do have 2 Mercedes vans they are called Freightliner Sprinters and yes we stock Vitodens parts....
our 250 Ford blew the tranny at 90k front end gone at 70k steering box at 12k. Rear discs have been a problem since new. Lots more problems than the old Ford 250 with 300strt 6 we used to have . Do have to say though it has 0 rust and is a 2000 which is pretty good compared to older versions.
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Part that truck was assembled in
> We do have 2 Mercedes vans they are called
> Freightliner Sprinters and yes we stock Vitodens
> parts....
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> our 250 Ford blew the tranny at 90k
> front end gone at 70k steering box at 12k. Rear
> discs have been a problem since new. Lots more
> problems than the old Ford 250 with 300strt 6 we
> used to have . Do have to say though it has 0
> rust and is a 2000 which is pretty good compared
> to older versions.
>
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Part that truck was assembled in
the Northwest Portland OR but they had troubles and have closed down most of freighliner here0 -
Just rolled over..
200K on my Honda Accord. No worries Mate! At one time bought an '84 Ford E-150 new, main bearings went south at 70K, put in a new shortblock, sold it...a real POJ0 -
I always had Fords untill the last two were Chevys because couldnt get a Ford on a lot near by and need the trucks quick. I will never buy another fake truck again, I mean chevy again0 -
ahhh yes, the 300-6
We had a 3/4T with one of those in it that went to 322,000 when we sold it to a local guy who is a small time fire wood seller. It was a 91 and he uses it in the woods yet and claims it runs like a top. Have no idea how many miles are on it. They had to drop that motor because it became to difficult to meet emission standards from what I was told.0
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