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Heat in the big Church is done ( Ron Jr. )

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Constantin
Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
... the boiler shrinks, the circs shrink, the heating costs shrink, and the tubing suddenly becomes neater... Ron must be in the house!

But seriously, great job and thanks for posting the pics. You and your crew remain an inspiration on how to install boiler systems quickly and cost-efficiently. I'm sure many a contractor would love to be able to copy your system to achieve this kind of throughput.

Ever thought of franchising? :-P

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  • This was boiler number 2

    in a church we've been working in for over 2 weeks straight . Which would make this officially the longest job I've been on . Boiler number one was a steamer we changed out last week .

    I forget which brand boiler the beast was , I think Mills ? In any event , the pic doesn't show how big this thing was . Someone took pity on us and had a removal crew do the demo . It took over an hour to drain the thing . With a hose on one drain and a pump on another .
  • Burnham V904

    with an Alliance G indirect . We piped it primary / secondary with a wall manifold . We also used outdoor reset . Wiring was tricky - all the zones were line voltage , and we had 2 common leads going to the thermostats and 3 wires coming back to power the circs . We had to do a bit of unconventional wiring to utilize a Taco 4 zone relay , which was needed to communicate zone action with the boiler .
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    2 weeks

    Incredible Ron, but two weeks in one spot? You guy's are going to need a nice tiny closet to get you back in the game (doesn't that sound wrong?)... What a difference in appearance. I'll wager they also see a difference in fuel usage. You guy's do see a large spectrum of work. From the small residential boiler, steam and large commercial. And in all case's you set the standard for the rest of us!! Keep up the good work..:)
  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395
    Never cease to amaze me, Ron

    That work is beautiful. I cannot say enough nice things about it.

    Just finished a "quick and dirty" G315 with 5 zones. Now where near as nice as your job.

    Your old boiler was a 2500 Smith-Mills. Put in a crapload of them when I was a kid.

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  • Jeff Lawrence_25
    Jeff Lawrence_25 Member Posts: 746
    You sure?

    That's not the same room you took the old one out of. Neat, clean, nothing to trip over.

    Great work, Ron.
  • Plenty of

    oil dry kept the floor clean . It was a disaster area while they were removing the sections . Thanks alot Jeff .
  • Lchmb

    We were on the steamer for 4 days and this one was 7 . Needless to say there's ALOT more work involved with hot water systems . Thank you for the kind words .
  • You put those in ?

    How old are you ? That thing looked 50+ years old . They musta kept that boiler design going for a long time cause I know you ain't that old .

    Do you install alot of Buderus ?

    Thank you very much Al .
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    I hope you saved that 4"? el with the 1"? "offshoot"!

    If you or anyone ever needs I rather doubt you'd be able to find a new one...

    BTW, what's the offical description of that thing. e.g. what would the dead man have called for at the plumbing house?
  • I think it's called

    " That crazy looking heavy thingy " . Maybe a 4 by 1 by 4 cast tee ? I think you're right , this would be a tough find anywhere nowadays . When we took out the steamer we cut out a 6" by 2 1/2" by 2 1/2" cast tee . Can you imagine what size the plumbing stores had to be back in the day to stock these oddball huge sizes ?
  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395
    We sure did install them.

    We installed them in what is called a "lo-set" configuration. They did not have the cast iron firebox underneath.

    The section legs set right on top of a base made from bolting "C" channels together side by side. Then a refractory (Everyone called it "sh&t", it was the first "curse" I was allowed to say in front of my Dad)was poured from a burlap bag into the chamber area and then the burner plate was bolted on with its insulation block.

    Did hundreds of them Smith dry base jobs. from the 1100 series to the 2500s. Did a lot of replacement "pork chop" sections too on the bigger Mills boilers.

    Yeah. It ain't my first week doin this.

    Keep up that beautiful work, Buddy. Your work lets everyone know there are still true craftsmen left in this trade.

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  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395

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  • Cunner_2
    Cunner_2 Member Posts: 47
    Reset Control

    Ron,
    Did you reset via the RTC or did you use a different source? Just curious, I was reading a little literature on the RTC for a upcomming job and noticed it protected the boiler and had the capability of providing a reset function. Any comments or input would be great.

    C
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    4 x 1 x 4 tee. Duh! For some reason I couldn't think of it as a tee.
  • Constantin

    Hey man , thanks alot for the compliment . But I can't take credit for the design . It was Jake who reps for Burnham in our area . He also designed the last church and another recent one I wasn't involved with . I'm just the implementer of the design . Having guys like Jake around makes my life ALOT easier .
  • We used the RTC

    for reset control also , and boiler protection . The control on the boiler does it all . This is maybe the 4th or 5th big job we used it on and it's well worth it .
  • Thanks Ted .

  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    RonJr

    As always you make very hard work look easy!!Great job buddy!!(i like the HD bucket dose it hold water?? or was that a speciel order bucket?)Nice real nice!!


    David
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,242
    top notch as allways

    Nice job as always every thing on the straight and level ,that's a long time to be in one place yeah after 3 or 4 days i'm ready to go ,you gotta be happy about not having to hurl those section out yeah ,but as always and said many times by many your work is truely a sign of quality and craftmanship and years of experence it's always a pleasure to see your work it's always shows quality and old time smarts .I know i've missed posting lately but been busy and getting ready to bolt outta the states for a long holiday and time with my better half,again ron excellent work and i will catch you next year peace and good luck clammy

    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

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