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Vacuum drying firewood

LarryC
LarryC Member Posts: 331
I am toying with the idea of using vacuum to dry firewood faster. My thought is to use an old piston refrigeration compressor as the vacuum source and a 3 foot diameter 2 foot tall concrete pipe as the chamber. Cement the chamber to the floor and make a suitable lid.

It is my understanding that if I draw too deep of a vacuum too fast, the water in the wood would freeze. So I would have to be able to slowly introduce the vacuum in order to draw the water out.

Wadda ya' think?

Larry

Comments

  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    it sounds like you could distill the water and sell it as

    > I am toying with the idea of using vacuum to dry

    > firewood faster. My thought is to use an old

    > piston refrigeration compressor as the vacuum

    > source and a 3 foot diameter 2 foot tall concrete

    > pipe as the chamber. Cement the chamber to the

    > floor and make a suitable lid.

    >

    > It is my

    > understanding that if I draw too deep of a vacuum

    > too fast, the water in the wood would freeze. So

    > I would have to be able to slowly introduce the

    > vacuum in order to draw the water out.

    >

    > Wadda

    > ya' think?

    >

    > Larry



  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    it sounds like you could distill the water and sell it as

    > I am toying with the idea of using vacuum to dry

    > firewood faster. My thought is to use an old

    > piston refrigeration compressor as the vacuum

    > source and a 3 foot diameter 2 foot tall concrete

    > pipe as the chamber. Cement the chamber to the

    > floor and make a suitable lid.

    >

    > It is my

    > understanding that if I draw too deep of a vacuum

    > too fast, the water in the wood would freeze. So

    > I would have to be able to slowly introduce the

    > vacuum in order to draw the water out.

    >

    > Wadda

    > ya' think?

    >

    > Larry



  • Ken_40
    Ken_40 Member Posts: 1,320
    Brilliant idea!

    However, the energy expended to pull an appreciable vacuum will accelerate your electric bill more than the reduced time required to "season" the wood faster than "air-drying" would allow?

    How long and, how much of a vacuum do you suppose it would take to "boil" and extract the water trapped in the center of the log, 2-12" from the outer layer(s)?

    Interesting concept nonetheless!

    Just remember, when we vacuum an A/C system, we are dealing with metal tubes, not pithy fibers 2' long X 6" diameter (;-o)
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    it sounds like you could distill the water and sell it as

    Mr. Larry's Magic elixer *~/:)

    sell it to posh up town bistro's "for Cooking purposes only' :)
  • LarryC
    LarryC Member Posts: 331
    Pre-oiled water for the ultimate pasta chef.

    How long and how deep? Don't know. My guess (wish) is less than 24 hours if I start with semi seasoned split wood. We recently had a chimney cleaning and there is evidence of a slow burning chimney fire and excessive creosote build up. While we are waiting for the insurance company and then rebuild the chimney, I figured I would look at alternatives to prevent this from happening again.

    I could rig up a sensor to one of the logs to measure moisture content and make the system semi-automatic.

    Larry C
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    There it is! *~/:)

    unbounded awareness :)

    for the commonly uncommon palate....

    remember me when you strike it rich :)
  • joel_19
    joel_19 Member Posts: 931
    Also

    Concrete and wood are both hydroscopic meaning water vapor can move thru the concrete. i would think you would need to waterproof the concrete with something

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  • LarryC
    LarryC Member Posts: 331
    Waterproofing

    If the system works, then I can seal the outside of the concrete with a suitable finish. Or if the migration is slow enough, ignore it.

    Larry C
  • mtfallsmikey
    mtfallsmikey Member Posts: 765
    Solar is the way to go

    Don't have links, but have seen plans for solar kilns, wood dryers, etc.
  • Perry_2
    Perry_2 Member Posts: 381
    Some heat will go a long way too...

    add heat to the mix for better results. Water boils at 92 F at 30" Hg vacuum.

    However, from a cost of construction and energy bill concept - A solar dryer is probably the way to go.

    Of course, if you let the wood season a year or two it naturally dries out. Very low energy cost. All you need is the space to store the wood for a season (or buy seasoned wood).

    Perry
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