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Went on a no heat on a new(NOT OURS) Ultra today. A competitor from "The Big City" had put this in about a month ago. Todays problem was just a blown fuse. However.............this is the install that greeted me. Owner complained the thing ramps up and down constantly and barely heats the house. The installer had checked it over and found no problem.
Told him that it is piped all wrong...no primary /secondary system in place. The large Taco pump that Weil sends was used...(upside down to boot)on the downstream side. The smaller Grundfos that came with the package was still in its box. Outside sensor was likewise still in its box.
This was done by a "Professional" firm !!! Guess I know what we will be doing tomorrow.



  • grindog
    grindog Member Posts: 121
    neat joints

    its a shame to see a nice peice of equiptment installed the wrong way. But at least from what i see in the pics they wiped their joints and did a nice job soldering!!
  • Tom R.
    Tom R. Member Posts: 139

    Amazing...installed that way the pump becomes a scale trap.
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884

    that someone can be such a neat installer and completly dis-regard the instructions.


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  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479

    a shame such a nice piece of equipment gets such shabby treatment. I hope the HO didn't pay too much to boot, because it will take a bit of pping to set this straight. I ran into a munchkin last Summer that wasn't piped right, and wasn't neat to boot. Didn't work right either. T'is a shame. WW

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  • Xc8p2dC_2
    Xc8p2dC_2 Member Posts: 150
    Pumping >>>>>

    ""The large Taco pump that Weil sends was used...(upside down to boot)on the downstream side.""

    A little clarification on this quote, please????

    While researching my replacement boiler, I did notice on the Ultra80 piping diagram, they do use a pump on the return side and a circulator on the supply side [my guess is to keep the exchanger satisfied]??
  • John White
    John White Member Posts: 120
    upsidedown pump

    Please, all, take my advice......
    Never install ANY wet rotor pump in a hanging position. It will not last long.
    Looks like possibly this job was done by a commercial contractor...seems to have happened before.
    The first thing that needs to be done here is to flip the pump..either virtically or horizontally.
    John White
  • much better now.......................

    Moved the upside down Taco to it's proper position. Installed the Grundfos where it should be. Outdoor sensor installed now. Works WONDERFUL NOW. No noise....heats up nicely. And it dropped it default 190 F temp. to what it calculates now with the sensor.

  • All better now.......................

    Moved the Taco to its proper position today.
    Installed the Grundfos where it belongs. Installed the outdoor sensor. Works great now. Noise went away and heat all thru the house.

  • Tony_23
    Tony_23 Member Posts: 1,033

    That Grundfos motor so the junction box is on top, wouldn't want any water to get in there and stay :(

    You can do it by rotating just the motor part after removing the 4 screws that hold it to the body. Unfortunately, you'll have to drain it to do it.
  • Bob Flanagan_3
    Bob Flanagan_3 Member Posts: 67
    Hello to John White

    Just wanted to say hello to John White!

    Haven't seen you in a while, have a Great New Year!

    Bob Flanagan
    National Sales Manager
    Slant/Fin Corp.
    Bob Flanagan

    Vice President

    Slant/Fin Corp.
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