Foreign fittings

EBEBRATT-Ed

AL- I have a Rems amigo as well-good machine. When using the handheld machines rems, ridgid 700 etc I cut all the pipe with a band saw (portaband). This elimenates the problem you are having as well as there is little or no burr on the inside of the pipe to be concerned with. Also easier than cranking the cutter around.

I havent had any problems with pipe lately.

ED

EBEBRATT-Ed

I was on a job today and picked up fittings at "the largest supply house in New England" All the stainless steel was "China" all the brass was "Thiland".

Nothing against the other countries making a buck but don't we make ANYTHING in this country anymore!

Also, what do you guys think of this stuff???????????

kevin coppinger_4

it has a lot...

to do with EPA emissions. Air quality std. are much higher here in the USA. Many companys that used to produce steel and brass can't afford to do bussiness here competitively.....kpc

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Al Corelli

I've been lucky to use Ward lately.
Noticed that they have a UL listing too.

Al Corelli

Double post.

Ragu

U.S.

It looks to me that there are 2 things going on. First is that the overseas stuff seems to be made out of wierd alloys. Hard spot in fittings and valves etc. Probably recycled.

The second is that the tooling is way off. Bad machining. I almost think that they bought worn out U.S. tooling and then set up shop. I like Ward.

Al Corelli

We've been having problems with hard spots in the pipe lately.

It has been chipping dies and darn near destroyed my 2 inch REMS die head. We had to thread 1.25 inch pipe by hand the other day because the 2 incher could not be removed from the REMS tool.

The diehead is stuck in the machine due to belling out of the area where the snap ring goes. This seems to be happening because the pipe cutter leaves a flared end on the pipe no matter how carefully you advance the cutter wheel. While applying the REMS machine to the pipe, over zealous helpers force and ream the diehead while trying to get it over the flared pipe. I don't necessarily blame the helpers, but I cannot be "everywhere" all the time. (I'm starting to cringe when they call my name!)
My Dad says to try the thin wheels.
I want to start using the Ridgid 300 or 270 again, but hate to think how they will break those devices.

gerry gill

yup, overseas fittings are garbage..

we like to use the ''anvil'' brand that is a rename spin off of grinnel which sold that part of their company..made in usa still tho..but the pipe..oh my..don't get me going on that..it was like having to change die teeth on every job..

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Ted_9

ridgid

I have a new stell cutter. The one with the three cutting wheels. No matter how I cut the pipe, it flares the pipe, then I cant get it to go into the 600. I have to take alot of time to file the flare down.

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Al Corelli

Thanks for the portaband idea.

A band saw is probably the only tool I do not have.

I'll bet the darn helpers cut the pipe crooked anyway.

We'll use the sawsall tomorrow.

Thank you VERY much for this advice.

Long Beach Ed

Pusan Pipe

If you don't buy pipe at Home Depot that is marked PUSAN PIPE - CHINA on the side without the nasty seam that leaks more gas than a burner you woun't have these problems.

ED

mario & luigi

we only buy US and Canadian pipe and fittings. don't even get me sterted on the Burnham radiation knock-offs from china. we averaged 50 min. prep on five client supplied radiators last week. thats 250 min at $2.60 per min. man and helper. that same helper picked up some 1.25 "90'" from across the Pacific that were 87 degrees not 90

Al Corelli

I do not shop at HD for anything.

Tony Conner

Let The...

... saw do the work - don't force it. Make a few practice cuts on some scrap. If the blade starts to drift, don't try to bring it back on the same cut - the blade will just wedge in the kerf, and pop off the drive wheels. You have to roll the pipe, and start the cut from a new spot. Make sure you look at which size saw you're getting. There's the regular model that will cut up to 2" pipe, and the deep cut that will let you do up to 4" pipe in one shot. It's tricky keeping a cut that big staight, however. We mark it with a wrap-around, so we can see if we're drifting. Just roll the pipe, and start a new cut on the same line. The pipe end can be evened-up in short order with a grinder, if required. The rolling method also lets you cut bigger pipe than the saw will normally accomodate - like 6" or 8", if you need to.

A nice thing about the band saws is that they'll cut any shape - round, square, angle, channel, etc. Once you get one, you'll wonder how you ever managed without it.

Long Beach Ed

Those $%#@& Radiators

We had one that actually didn't leak. Humped the thing up three flights to Manhattan penthouse and installed it. Get a call back -- spitting water out of the vent.

Oh no -- that vent that was held into the two-thread tapping -- I walked away from it with a prayer.

Well from the base up to the tapping was full of sand. I don't know how Burnham puts their name on that crap.

Ed

bob young

govanale or true burnham

sounds like a govanale made in india. every one installed is rolling the dice.

Long Beach Ed

In fairness to Burnham

The Governale's are far worse. The Burnhams are made here in the USA during the boiler off-seasons. When they are casting boilers they told me they make the radiators in China. You'll know when they were made when you see one.

India, eh? Probably cast on a mud floor.

Ed

EBEBRATT-Ed

Al-

You can also use a sawzall which I know Milwaukee makes a attachement to cut pipe straight with it.

But we all carry bandsaws in our truck (deep cut) once you use one you will never need the pipe cutter.and it's great for threaded rod etc--even for demo I use it instead of the sawzall when I can a lot smoother and less shaking and vibration and the blades hold up well if you use common sense.

ED

Plumdog_2

How come Watts

puts their name on rolls of "soft copper" sold at HD thats half the weight of real K soft (it ain't labeled K)

Al Corelli

I am aware of the pipe cutting apparatus they have for the sawzalls.
Do they make one for the band saw?